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andybno1 01-10-2003 01:16 PM

how to convert two DVDs to one movie file?
 
I wanna do LOTR onto a 80 min cd using the lbr template but cause its on 2 dvds its a bit difficult to do it straight from dvd 2 svcd. so how do I join the two parts together?

kwag 01-10-2003 01:39 PM

Re: 2 DVDs to one movie file???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1
I wanna do LOTR onto a 80 min cd using the lbr template but cause its on 2 dvds its a bit difficult to do it straight from dvd 2 svcd. so how do I join the two parts together?

Maybe it's better not to join them!. Just encode each DVD to an mpeg file, and burn each as a separate track. When you play your CD-R, at the end of track one, it will automatically continue to track two. That is, if you don't mind a small pause between tracks, which will be way shorter than manually changing CDs :lol:

-kwag

black prince 01-10-2003 02:41 PM

@andybno1,

DVD2AVI will handle it. Just use DVD Decrypter to rip vob from both
disks and Select files with DVD2AVI from disk1 and the rest from disk2.
With LOTR you may have to cut the credits and use LBR template
(352x240) to fit on 1 CD. :D

-black prince

andybno1 01-10-2003 03:05 PM

Re: 2 DVDs to one movie file???
 
Quote:

Maybe it's better not to join them!. Just encode each DVD to an mpeg file, and burn each as a separate track. When you play your CD-R, at the end of track one, it will automatically continue to track two. That is, if you don't mind a small pause between tracks, which will be way shorter than manually changing CDs :lol:

-kwag
I guess I could do it that way, can the pause be set to 0 seconds?

andybno1 01-10-2003 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black prince
@andybno1,

DVD2AVI will handle it. Just use DVD Decrypter to rip vob from both
disks and Select files with DVD2AVI from disk1 and the rest from disk2.
With LOTR you may have to cut the credits and use LBR template
(352x240) to fit on 1 CD. :D

-black prince

I can't do it as you say I only have 11.3 gb of free hd space, and thats after cleaning my drive of stuff I don't essentialy need. I doubt 11.3gb will quite be enough, how much would I need to do the 2 discs?

black prince 01-10-2003 03:17 PM

@andybno1,

OK. :) How about encoding disk1 first using LBR and remove the vob's
for disk1. Then encode disk2 using LBR. Now remove those vob's.
You should have 2 mpgs of LBR. Use Hjsplit utility to join
both into 1 mpg file then burn :D

-black prince

andybno1 01-10-2003 03:26 PM

where can I get Hjsplit utility from?

KingTuk 01-10-2003 04:31 PM

HJSPLIT
 
HJSPLIT

http://www.freebyte.com/hjsplit/

andybno1 01-10-2003 05:02 PM

cheers KingTuk

andybno1 01-10-2003 06:51 PM

would you suggest I encode the video seperately and mux audio and video or just run audio and video together through tmpgenc?

urban tec 01-11-2003 12:10 AM

Do video and Audio seperately.
Use Headac3he to do the audio as it will give better quality at lower bitrates, it is available here

andybno1 01-11-2003 05:35 AM

well, I encoded the video with audio before getting a response and I have paid the price, the audio is slightly out of sync.

also I changed the aspect ratio to 16:9 (PAL) then put full screen (keep aspect ratio), the rsult is the subs are in the wrong place.

just done a test with the settings set to 4:3 and full screen, and its still in the same place.

andybno1 01-11-2003 06:23 AM

I redone the avs script in fitcd and well take a look at this sample

andybno1 01-11-2003 06:54 AM

how can I get the subs to be in alignment with the video screen?

KingTuk 01-11-2003 10:16 AM

Are you using VobSub?

If so, then run Subresync.exe and use it to edit your subtitle file and save

andybno1 01-11-2003 10:47 AM

nope, running a avs script through tmpgenc and getting tmpgenc to encode video and subs together.

KingTuk 01-11-2003 10:53 AM

but what plug-in are you using in your avs script to play the subtitle...

andybno1 01-11-2003 11:54 AM

sorry, I added the following two line to the avs script:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth Subtitler.dll")

AvisynthSubtitler("C:\DVD Movie\Subs\","permsubs.txt")

I noticed if I took out the resize bit I get the full movie and not what I got in the sample I posted.

andybno1 01-12-2003 01:50 PM

well eventually managed to get the subs into the video, had to put it through dvd2svcd first, I have just put the m2v files and auio file through the project wizard and dumped it in the encode cue and the resulted file size was predicted to be over 900mb, now if the lbr template is to allow 180mins onto a 80min cd surely the first part would considerably smaller?

ok, scrapped the svcd way, now when I load the avs script;
Code:

LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth Subtitler.dll")

Mpeg2Source("C:\DVD Movie\lotr.d2v")
BicubicResize(704,448,0,0.6,21,0,678,576)
AddBorders(8,64,8,64)
AvisynthSubtitler("C:\DVD Movie\","permsubs.txt")

and when I scroll to any frame I get:

Quote:

avisynth: caught an access violation at 0x077f755e9
attempting to read from 0x00000034
anyone know what has happend?

new_bee 01-14-2003 10:15 AM

I'm also encoding LOTR spec. ed. [PAL] for 2 CDs. What settings did you use? I'm using CQ 60 (max 2300, q.matrix) for CD 1 and CQ 58 (max 2200) for CD 2 and cut off the credits. Will last some more hours.
I don't use the subtitles since I know the Elvish dialogue by heart :wink: ...

EDIT: Try another mpeg2dec version, sometimes that will solve a problem!

andybno1 01-14-2003 02:35 PM

I used default lbr template settings, didn't touch any settings.

I have the latest version of mpeg2dec. I used the avs script produced by dvd2svcd and put that through tmpgenc, I have decided to give up on the idea of trying to put it on one cd as its quite clear the lbr doesn't aloow 180mins onto 1 80min cd.

kwag 01-14-2003 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1
its quite clear the lbr doesn't aloow 180mins onto 1 80min cd.

"Pearl harbor" and "The Green Mile" have been put on one CD-R with the LBR. Both are ~180 minutes :wink:

Don't give up. Nerver say never :wink:

-kwag

SansGrip 01-14-2003 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1
I used default lbr template settings, didn't touch any settings.

This is why it's not fitting. You have to modify the CQ value to make the final encode whatever size you want it, using the file size prediction method.

kwag 01-14-2003 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1
I used default lbr template settings, didn't touch any settings.

Sorry but it just doesn't work that way :!: . You must use prediction and adjust CQ value for your target. The CQ value in the LBR and all templates is just there as a reference.

-kwag

kwag 01-14-2003 02:40 PM

Cross post :mrgreen:

andybno1 01-14-2003 03:08 PM

I have no idea when it comes to cq values, disc one is 101 mins, whats the recomended PAL settings for that?

Quote:

You must use prediction and adjust CQ value for your target.
I used the prediction in fitcd 1.05 with filters and when put through tmpgenc it basically done what could only be described as a summary of the movie within 1min 46secs (this was with out setting any source range)

kwag 01-14-2003 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1
I have no idea when it comes to cq values, disc one is 101 mins, whats the recomended PAL settings for that?

Quote:

You must use prediction and adjust CQ value for your target.
I used the prediction in fitcd 1.05 with filters and when put through tmpgenc it basically done what could only be described as a summary of the movie within 1min 46secs (this was with out setting any source range)

Perfect!, so there's your sample file. Note the file size. Now follow this procedure: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2102

-kwag

andybno1 01-14-2003 03:18 PM

thats all well manual file prediction, but how do I stop the 1min 46 secs sample file being produced every time?

plus could someone tell me what setting to use to make parts 1 and two fit onto one cd??

andybno1 01-14-2003 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1
thats all well manual file prediction, but how do I stop the 1min 46 secs sample file being produced every time?

plus could someone tell me what setting to use to make parts 1 and two fit onto one cd??

ignore this post, I have not had much sleep recenlty, I have been dwnloading 2 700odd mb files on a 56k modem with session times being disconnected by isp every 2hrs. I am very tired and at time of post only spotted the posts title and did not read the thread.

andybno1 01-14-2003 09:17 PM

Kwag,

could you do a screenshot of what setting to have in fitcd for the lbr template, and also in the manual file prediction do I do divide by 24 for the framerate for a PAL movie? and what file size am I aiming for in the sample file to make LOTR SEE fit onto one cd?

edit:just relised will have to do the original version and not the extended version, because disc one is 101 mins and disc two is just short of two hours which means that the films length is about 220mins.


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