Hey fellas,

I've come to the conclusion that Kwag's templates (as they are) can't really handle Divx sources. Early encodes (October/November) were gorgeous, but current encodes have a uniform, hideous noise everywhere (no matter what filter I use).
I'm trying to mod the template (shrink GOP, change bitrate allocation, scene analysis, etc...) to give me the results I enjoyed with my first encode. I expected quality to get better, but it got worse. Instead, everyone seems to be hellbent on squeezing 2 hrs on to a CD-R , and 'Avisynthing' it to death. This method does horrible, awful things to low-bitrate sources (IMHO).

Is there any plan in the works to create a template tailored to Xvid / Divx sources?

Lower the GOP size of any KVCD template to 12 frames and use MSharpen filter :wink:
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....light=msharpen

-kwag

My KVCDX3 from a DivX source turn out great...

as a rule of thumb... If the DivX is a 2CD Movie (as most are) then I make 2 KVCD's... If its a 1CD Movie then I make it a 1 KVCD

Also notice the DirectShowSource below in my script...

I use FFDSHOW as my DivX decoder with only using postprocessing and at the highest settings. I have tested this on 3 different systems. A Win2000 machine (pentium3) ,a WinXP machine (pentium4) and an old Celeron 500 (WinXP) with no problems...

This is the Script I use...

LoadPlugin("D:\avs\plugin\dustv5.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avs\plugin\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avs\plugin\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avs\plugin\fluxsmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avs\plugin\TemporalCleaner.dll")
DirectShowSource("D:\divx.avi", fps=23.976)
EnsureVBRMP3Sync()
LegalClip()
BilinearResize(528,352)
spacedust()
TemporalCleaner()
#FluxSmooth()
#TemporalSmoother(2,2)
AddBorders(0,64,0,64)
LegalClip()

If you don't have an SSE CPU then I would use fluxsmooth() and
TemporalSmoother(2,2) instead of spacedust() and temporalcleaner()

@KingTuk -

Does your
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DirectShowSource("D:\divx.avi", fps=23.976)

substitute for
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AviSource("D:divk.avi", false) ?

i.e. -
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DirectShowSource("D:\divx.avi", fps=23.976, false) ?



I D/L'ed the FFdirectshow bundle.
I'll get back to you on my results.
BTW, Do I need to uninstall Divx 5.0.2, or can I leave it? Ditto on 3.11A...


Thanks!!

I'm clearly not doing something right. Avisynth is giving me an "invalid argument" error message on the source line.

Wait.. now I'm getting 'unable to open, no combination of filters could be found to render the stream.'

Pardon me while I go crush something. :evil:
This is really beginning to test me. I suppose we'll see if I'm hard-headed enough to get through this particular brick wall...

FYI, I uninstalled my Divx stuff, and installed FFdshow instead.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Steve

when you install FFDSHOW and you goto the Codecs menu...
you place a check by which types of mpeg-4 files that you want FFDSHOW to be the main decoder of...

If your mediaplayer can play a DivX with FFDSHOW then it will also play through your AVS script...

I use Zoomplayer because it makes it very easy to see which directshow filters are being used to play the file so if it says ffdhow MPEG-4 Video Decoder when you look at Filter Properties then you know it's working correctly...

avisource and directshowsource are different and I have never used the false command in any of my scripts

I just decided to try this kvcd stuff after seeing the lotr tt sample. But before i can even really get started after following step #1 I don't get VBR audio stream detected I get the following message....


VirtualDub has detected an improper VBR audio encoding in the source AVI file and will rewrite the audio header with standard CBR values during processing for better compatibility. This may introduce up to 8587 ms of skew from the video stream. If this is unacceptable, decompress the *entire* audio stream to an uncompressed WAV file and recompress with a constant bitrate encoder. (bitrate: 122.1 funny little mark here 21.6 kbps)


the 8587 ms is different for different avi's...



What the hell am I doing wrong???????????
I've been trying to convert avi files to different formats for months now, by following different instructions from different sites and still have yet to make a perfect working CD. most of the time its the sound being out of skew a bit or the sound is crackly a bit and the video skips/jumppy.


PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME.

I'm really getting fustrated..wasting cd's...and yes when I test the mpg before burning, everything is perfect but when i got to use nero to burn as a vcd or svcd it tells me the MPG is not compliant blah blah blah and will reencode before burning(Sorry got of the initial topic...my bad)

Virtualdub tells me the same thing but it doesn't matter. Just extract your wave (full processing mode) and encode it as described in the divx to kvcd tutorial.

Of course your vcd or svcd are not standard compliant. But it's not a pb, bypass the warnng and burn it. Never reencode it with nero !!! You can uncheck when you create your (s)vcd under nero the option saying something like "make a standard vcd 2.0". Then you will not be warn anymore by nero.
One other thing to do is using vcdeasy.

I've actually tried burning that way but unless i let it reencode, after i burn it won't play in my dvd player.but if i reencode it will but the sound gets all screwed up etc etc.....

there was a mpg of scooby doo made by fastchef....i burned it both ways and by not reencoding it it wouldn't play so i reencoded it and it would play but the sound was out of sync....

like i've said i've been trying everything for months to get something right....i have managed to get a couple of cartoons to work but the sound has static noises throughout it almost like scratches on a record.....

just out of curiousity why shouldn't i reencode it....is that whats causing the out of syncing?

i cant fine the file MPEG2DEC.dll
where is it ??
plzz help me

here...and welcome! :wink:

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....9661f83100ef76

okey thanks... i got the file now but get a new big problem
in preview i get an error:
LoadPlugin: "G:\dvd\TemporalCleaner.dll" is not an avisynth 1.0 plugin.

what does that mean and what can i do ??

It means you need to be using all the stuff from here...

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2553

**also make sure you a running avisynth 2.07

i have all that stuff an i run avisynth 2.07 like it says "is not an avisynth 1.0 plugin" no and my avisynth is not 1.0 bot 2.07

ok now i downt get it.
if i make my .avs file like this...

LoadPlugin("G:\dvd\mpeg2dec_dll\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\dvd\LegalClip-0.2\LegalClip.dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\dvd\Sampler-0.2a\Sampler.dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\dvd\dustv5\DustV5.dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\dvd\TemporalCleaner\TemporalCleaner .dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\dvd\GripFit_preview_0.0c\GripFit_Pr eview.dll")
avisource("G:\anden.avi")
#ConvertToYUY2()
LegalClip()
GripCrop(528, 480, overscan=1)
GripSize()
SpaceDust()
ConvertToYUY2()
TemporalCleaner()
LegalClip()
#Sampler(length=24)

i get the error: cant open .avs file ore unsupported but if i insert "Version" like this

LoadPlugin("G:\dvd\mpeg2dec_dll\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\dvd\LegalClip-0.2\LegalClip.dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\dvd\Sampler-0.2a\Sampler.dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\dvd\dustv5\DustV5.dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\dvd\TemporalCleaner\TemporalCleaner .dll")
LoadPlugin("G:\dvd\GripFit_preview_0.0c\GripFit_Pr eview.dll")
avisource("G:\anden.avi")
#ConvertToYUY2()
LegalClip()
GripCrop(528, 480, overscan=1)
GripSize()
SpaceDust()
Version
ConvertToYUY2()
TemporalCleaner()
LegalClip()
#Sampler(length=24)

then the error is gone but it only prints the avisynth version... what is wrong here ???

try this:

in this line:
LoadPlugin("G:\dvd\TemporalCleaner\TemporalCleaner .dll")
change to:
LoadPlugin("G:\dvd\TemporalCleaner\TemporalCleaner old.dll")

and remove:
Version

will work! do a sample!
:wink:

i have downloadet a new version of temporalCleaner.dll and in this map there are no old.dll file

with the version in the start of this topic i get an error:

LoadPlugin: "G:\dvd\TemporalCleaner.dll" is not an avisynth 1.0 plugin.

and if i used the old.dll file i get not open ore unsupported as error..

it cant be right ??

Download dvd2svcd, it's include...

remember,in this link:

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....9661f83100ef76

read this:(and download)

TemporalCleaner http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.ph...&postid=240506
(TemporalCleanerOLD.dll houses TemporalCleaner() )

:wink:

i have tryed that
and if i use the file TemporalCleaner.dll i get this error:

LoadPlugin: "G:\dvd\TemporalCleaner.dll" is not an avisynth 1.0 plugin.

and i i use the TemporalCleanerOld.dll file i get this error:

can't open ore unsupported