KVCD: too blurry or too much noise?
 

Has anyone donr this movie? Im using 480x480 MPG2 but I cant get the filters right, too blurry or too much noise, if anyone has seen it, you know at the begining its very dark and rainy, this is where my encode looks the worst, in the daytime scenes its no too bad but i want it to look good all the way thru.........Convolution3D, temporalsmoother,pixiedust, faerydust, golddust, blockbuster.......I dont know what else to try on this one, any help please........if you donr this or a movie like it, let me know the script and the settings of the filters............

P.S. also not sure why, but this movie is only118 min long but it wants 13 hrs to encode, one of the longest ever, something dont seem right.



AMD Athlon 1.1 gig
512 DDR
40 Gig HHd
GeForce 32 meg

fast PC slow resultz.....


bombero

Hi Bombero,

Try it with SKVCD and Spacedust() and TemporalCleaner() :wink:

-kwag

Kwag, I just tried it and I am getting the same results. my source is DVD-Rip and it is a clean movie, on the DVD it looks good in the darker areas, but I just cant get the right combo of filters.

Oh, using the SKVCD dropped the encode time to 6.5 hours , I havent tried a sample on the DVD Player yet, but I will here shortly..is there any major changes from KVCDx3 and SKVCD other than resolutuion?

Basically resolution. That's it :?

-kwag

WOW! that was a fast reply...anyway I am encoding a sample right now to try on the player, one funny thing is, I set my desktop colrs from 16 to 32 just to see if that was anything, and it looks better than it did. I still have some grainy artifacts in the dark scenes but it looks better, I cant be sure until I try it out in a few minutes.......Ill let you know.........

ok here is what I did and it came out nice..

LoadPlugin("D:\DVD-VCD\mpeg2dec_dll\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\DVD-VCD\mpeg2dec_dll\fluxsmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\DVD-VCD\mpeg2dec_dll\blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\DVD-VCD\mpeg2dec_dll\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\DVD-VCD\mpeg2dec_dll\sampler.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\DVD-VCD\mpeg2dec_dll\GripFit_preview.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\DVD-VCD\mpeg2dec_dll\convolution3d.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\DVD-VCD\mpeg2dec_dll\dustv4.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\DVD-VCD\mpeg2dec_dll\decombLegacy.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\DVD-VCD\mpeg2dec_dll\dustv5.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\DVD-VCD\mpeg2dec_dll\TemporalCleanerold.dll")

Mpeg2Source("C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\The Bourne Identity\TBI.d2v")
LegalClip()
GripCrop( width=480, height=480, overscan=0 )
GripSize()
SpaceDust()
TemporalCleaner()
Blockbuster(method="sharpen", detail_min=20, detail_max=90, strength=10)
##Convolution3D(preset="movieHQ")
##GripBorders()
LegalClip()
Sampler(length=24)


im not sure if this combo has the filters fighting with each other or not, but it works in the case, the dark rainy scenes look good now and the rest of the movie is very nice, the size went up a bit but i just lowered the CQ level...thanx again

Hi Bombero,

If you change the line from:
Blockbuster(method="sharpen", detail_min=20, detail_max=90, strength=10)
to:
Blockbuster(method="noise", variance=.7, seed=1), you'll get better results and smaller file size for the same CQ value :wink:

-kwag

if you are using dust v5 you don't need this anymore...

LoadPlugin("D:\DVD-VCD\mpeg2dec_dll\dustv4.dll")

That's not in my .avs template :), that's what I get for "Copy+Pasting" samples :twisted:

-kwag

Thanx Kwag, Thanx Tuk...

I with clear the old dust4.dll line, and I will try the blockbuster settings.....

I will admit Kwag, I used some of your script settings, but only as a guide and template because you know what you are doing, your stuff is worth using :wink:

bomb howcome ur encoding it at 480x480...i dont understand. Is that give u a better picture

ok, its getting better and better, a few more small tweaks and i think ill have it right.........i was able to raise the CQ up since the sample got smaller and cleaner..............

Bombero is making an SVCD with KVCD parameters :D

-kwag

I am using 352x480 and 480x480 MPG2, thats the only res my Apex AD660 will play, without the jerky playback that is. Yes KWAG, I want the SVCD with the clarity and file size of the KVCD. I recently did Pearl Harbor (2DVD into 2SVCD) Kwag style and nobody that has seen them can tell the difference......it is worth the extra time and effort for perfection...



A side note for all here: I just used Nero Vision Express to do menus and chapters, Ill tell you what it is the best I ever seen, fast, easy and workx with KVCD like a charm...my KVCD's look and act like DVD now! you can get it from Nero's web page, but you have to do a "search" for the MPEG2/DVD .dll on kazaA in order for it to do SVCD/DVD along with VCD.

Well that's fine. If it works, it works :D

-kwag

where do you get dustv5.dll?

Link here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2553

-kwag

Hi Bombero,

I have a Apex AD5131, me too cannot play the same resolution you have... but i dont have access to mpeg2 so i am using kvcdx2 LBR... and besides I am using a slow computer and it will be impossible to wait encoding resolution other than 352x240...

The bottom line is it works like a charm.

Bomb r u using the skvcd template and got pearl harbour to fit on one cd?

Hi Vitia,

To fit "Pearl Harbor" on one CD, you have to encode with the KVCD LBR template. It will fit on one CD at higher resolutions, but it will look like crap. :D

-kwag