kvcd: losing too much quality with a low cq value?
 

hi you all,

i did more testing (kvcdx3) with my problems and here is what i have found...

1- finally it worked with tmpgenc & bbmpeg...for tmpgenc i set cq at 60 and did not have an illegal floating point message...it gave me a file of 500 mg app....no message from bbmpeg also with this rate (it was able to write to output file)...so those settings worked finally...

2- retried everything with cq at 70 with tmpgenc and it worked again no error message but when muxing with bbmpeg it stopped at 98%...it was not able to go at 100%...can i use this file anyway...

3- tried with my real cq value (75,53)...ok with tmpgenc no error but bbmpeg is stopping at 82% with the same message...unable to write to output file...

4- tried also tmpgenc with cq value of 80 or higher and it is always giving me the illegal floating error message...

5- am i losing to much quality with a low cq value for that template (kvcdx3) or is it better for me to use only the 352 x 240 which is working?

6- since a low cq (60) value is working for me for kvcdx3, are there other settings that we could use to improve the quality or will i have better results with another template???

thx

big

a
 

forgot to tell you that i find the quality qiote good with that cq value...

Hi big,

Are these errors on the same movie (source), or can you reproduce the same errors on other sources :?:

-kwag

a
 

every avi source...very weird...but like i said it is working with cq at 60...

Re: a
 

Have you tried getting rid of your current CODEC and installing another CODEC. Maybe XviD? What is your currenc avi CODEC :?:

-kwag

a
 

morgan multimedia...where can we get xvid??

Re: a
 

Hold on :!: . When you meant avi, does this mean that you are capturing with MJPEG :?:
If this is the case, have you tried capturing with the Huffy CODEC, and then processing that :idea:

-kwag

a
 

no i did not try huffy...

Re: a
 

So that's probably it :!: It could be the MJPEG CODEC :idea:
Give the Huffy codec a try :idea:

-kwag

a
 

if that could solve my problems...i will test everything again...i am very patient (been with the same woman for the last 11 years :):):))

where could i get that codec??

by the way you were wright for lowering my bitrate it solved my problem of jumpiness in dvd...

Re: a
 

Oh me too. I was 7 years with my first wife, 3 with the second, and now 7 with my 3'rd ( and hopefully last :mrgreen: ) Edit: Not counting the ex girlfriends :lol: http://math.berkeley.edu/~benrg/huffyuv.html :wink:

-kwag

a
 

will i have to change my script when huffy is installed?

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\NimoCodec Pack\Mpeg2dec\Mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\GripFit_preview_0.0c\GripFit_ Preview.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\FluxSmooth-1.0\FluxSmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\LegalClip-0.2\LegalClip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\Sampler-0.2a\Sampler.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\DustV5\DustV5.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\TemporalCleaner\TemporalClean er.dll")

avisource("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Films\Lilo.Et.Stitch.FRENCH.DVDRiP.DiVX-Ulysse.avi")
ConvertToYUY2()
LegalClip()
GripCrop( width=528, height=480, overscan=2)
GripSize()
SpaceDust()
Fluxsmooth()
TemporalCleaner()
GripBorders()
LegalClip()
#Sampler(length=24)

a
 

is version 1.31 ok...

do we have to change some setting once installed?

Re: a
 

No. But remember that your captured MJPEG avi's must me viewed with MJPEG CODEC. You can't read MJPEGs captures with the Huffy codec.
Now you can do some test captures with the Huffy codec and then process them with the .avs script. Huffy and MJPEG are not compatible.

-kwag

a
 

what do you mean by test captures???

just for your information i am not equiped to rip dvds...

Re: a
 

Yes I believe that is the latest. You download the files and then "Right click" on the huffyuv.inf and "Install".
After that, if you use VirtualDub, etc., to capture, you'll see the new codec installed on VIDEO compression options.

-kwag

Re: a
 

How did you capture your MJPEG files :?:

a
 

it's installed and i saw it in vdub...what next?

Re: a
 

Now you can do a capture with the Huffy codec selected instead of MJPEG.

-kwag

a
 

you mean that i load my script in vdub and choose huffy in the options?

because to avoid illegal floating point in tmpgenc, i startred frameserver in vdub, save .vdr and load the .vdr in tmpgenc...

excuse my dumb dumb questions...

Re: a
 

No no. Huffy is a codec, just like the MJPEG codec. You need to have a captured file in Huffy format in order to process it now with an .avs. That's why I asked you if you can capture some video with the Huffy codec selected.

-kwag

i am sorry i really don't understand...

Ok. Let's start. How did you get your MJPEG files :?: Did you capture them yourself, or you got them from somewhere else :?:

let's say somewhere else!!!

Hi big,

Do you use Internet Relay Chat :?:

yep...i am a bad boy!!!

Ok, go to "Random US Undernet Server" and see me there as "kwag" on the channel #mpgpassion :D

Hey you guys- this is not a chat room- if you break rule #11 two more times you will be suspended for 30 days! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

:mrgreen: :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgr een::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:: mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgre en::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::m rgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

sorry.............. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Don't worry big :mrgreen: Ren was (LOL LOL ) quoting something that happened at another site. Rule #11 doesn't apply here :mrgreen: LOL LOL LOL

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

if i stop to laugh....maybe ...maybe i can write something... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry big, I was just playing around- see this thread :wink:
ren

I'm still laughing :mrgreen:

If you want to capture with MJPEG, there are some options:

# Main Concept MJPEG codec is MUCH faster than the Morgan or PicVideo codecs

# I think ffdshow supports MJPEG, you may try to decode with it to see if the errors stop. You have the added bonus of being able to "post-process" (dering, deblock) the avi before encoding.

I have never had this Floating point error with TMPGEnc 2.5.8 or 2.5.9, I've had it a few times with 2.5.10 so I guess it's a 2.5.10 bug. It would always happened when I had something running at the same time as headac3, so now I leave TMPGENc running all alone and never got the error again.