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vcd4me

02-23-2003 08:13 PM

KVCD: stuck on step 4 of dvd to kvcd guide...

Ok I am a simple man .
I have never done any of the changing of programs (ex script)

I have created many vcds as well as vcds and according to some people This kvcd thing is the way to go.

So please someone HELP!

I'm at step 4 of dvd-kvcd

I opened note pad and copy and pasted what the guide said to .

Now what exactly do I do with thes instructions (this is where I am LOST)

Quote:

GripCrop replaces Crop, GripSize replaces BilinearResize.
Tmpgenc’s video arrange (Center) keeps correct aspect ratio.
(no egg head picture image) For more options check
documentation that comes with GripCrop or SansGrip forum.

The only filters you might want to change is GripCrop’s width and height to
the resolution being used in KVCD template. The sample above is for KVCDx3.
#Sampler(length=24) when uncommented is used for file prediction. This
will be used to predict whether your final file size will fit 1 or 2 CDs

I noticed it says

Use tmpgenc
Browse (input) button> (find your movie.avs file you created)

Where and when did I make a avs.file?

Thanks in advance
VCD4ME

P.S. I think I/ we need a picture guide.

jorel

02-23-2003 08:49 PM

hi vcd4me :)
seems a good idea:
"I think I/ we need a picture guide" :wink:

wait a few minutes!

kwag	02-23-2003 09:01 PM

Re: I am lost -stuck on step 4 of dvd-kvcd

Quote:

Originally Posted by vcd4me

Where and when did I make a avs.file?

It means to copy and paste the lines that follow in the guide:

Code:

LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\MPEG2DEC\MPEG2DEC.dll”) 

LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\LegalClip\LegalClip.dll”) 

LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\Sampler\Sampler.dll”) 

LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\Dust\DustV5.dll”) 

LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\TemporalCleaner\TemporalCleanerOld.dll”) 

LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\GripFit\GripFit_Preview.dll”) 

LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\InverseTelecine\Donald Graft\Decomb.DLL") 

mpeg2source("D:\Temp\movie.d2v") 

# 

LegalClip() 

#Telecide() #Use based on Step 2 if needed 

#Decimate(5) #Use based on Step 2 if needed 

GripCrop(528, 480, overscan=2) 

GripSize() 

SpaceDust() 

TemporalCleaner() 

LegalClip() 

#Sampler(length=24)

into notepad, and save it to "movie.avs" or "anyfile.avs" so you can then open it with TMPEG :)

-kwag

vcd4me

02-24-2003 07:56 AM

Kwag
I did exactly that I copy and pasted that into a folder and called it movie. avs.

Tmpgenc won't open that its not a video file .

I don't understand. That is just a bunch of pasted comands tmpgenc will not open it "file unsupported" is the error message I get.

Thanks again
VCD4ME

kwag	02-24-2003 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vcd4me

Tmpgenc won't open that its not a video file .

Did you install avisynth 2.07 :?:
http://www.sf.net/projects/avisynth2

-kwag

vcd4me

02-24-2003 09:10 AM

Yes -Well I think I did

I did download it but maybe I did something wrong.

I'll try again.

I am trying to follow the guide step by step. :oops:

thanks as usual Kwag

Signed
VCD4ME

vcd4me

02-24-2003 09:57 AM

Ok kwag

I Re-installed them and still nothing
Tmpgenc says file unsupported- and again this isn't a movie file so
How will tmpgenc open it

I must be stupid or something :(

I copied this script thing exactly and named it my movie.avs

Quote:

LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\MPEG2DEC\MPEG2DEC.dll”)
LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\LegalClip\LegalClip.dll”)
LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\Sampler\Sampler.dll”)
LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\Dust\DustV5.dll”)
LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\TemporalCleaner\TemporalCleanerOld.dll”)
LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\GripFit\GripFit_Preview.dll”)
LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\InverseTelecine\Donald Graft\Decomb.DLL")
mpeg2source("D:\Temp\movie.d2v")
#
LegalClip()
#Telecide() #Use based on Step 2 if needed
#Decimate(5) #Use based on Step 2 if needed
GripCrop(528, 480, overscan=2)
GripSize()
SpaceDust()
TemporalCleaner()
LegalClip()
#Sampler(length=24)

So here I two more questions
What exactly do I do with this avisyth program?
Where do I input the actually movie(d2v file)?
Where do I input this my movie .avs thing?

Thanks in advance
VCD4ME

P.S. This is why I don't like it when I make a post on the other site about how do these thingswok?-the responses that I get are just follow the guide. Now look I don't even understand how to do this even though it sounds simple.

Example (off topic but a good analogy)
You can bake a cake using a boxed cake mix and follow the directions,or you can make one from scratch. You could have all the ingredients in front of you but if you don't know how much flour milk eggs etc.. to put in then mix you can't bake a cake from scratch.

dazedconfused

02-24-2003 11:57 AM

Hey vcd4me,

Did you download and properly install the ReadAVS VFAPI Plugin for TMPGEnc as instructed in Sansgrip's "Recommended TMPGEnc Settings" stickypost in the TMPG forum here?: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2223 You need that so TMPGEnc can open the .avs files you create.

Also, you'll need to change your .avs script so it reflects the proper pathname to wherever you have your .dll's stored on your PC, as stated in Black Prince's guide. You can't just copy Black Prince's sample script exactly as it is in the guide and leave it totally unchanged and still expect it to work (unless of course you are using the exact same directories/pathnames on your PC as Black Prince does on his PC, which is probably unlikely :wink: ).

So instead of:

Code:

LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\MPEG2DEC\MPEG2DEC.dll”) 

LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\LegalClip\LegalClip.dll”) 

LoadPlugin(“E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\Sampler\Sampler.dll”) 

etc.

You should change it to:

Code:

LoadPlugin(“put the correct path to your .dll here\MPEG2DEC.dll”) 

LoadPlugin(“put the correct path to your .dll here\LegalClip.dll”) 

LoadPlugin(“put the correct path to your .dll here\Sampler.dll”) 

etc.

You also need to change the following line in your .avs script to reflect where you have your .d2v file stored on your PC:

Code:

mpeg2source("D:\Temp\movie.d2v")

Try doing these things if you haven't already, and then continue following Black Prince's guide. When you hit the Browse button in TMPGEnc and choose your newly revised .avs file, it should open up for you. If not, then I guess you'll need to get some more help from someone wiser than me! (don't worry, LOTS of people here fit that particular description! :lol: )

Good luck,
-d&c

sidenote: it looks like Black Prince may have forgotten :?: to include the GripBorders() line right before the final LegalClip() line in his guide's sample .avs script, so you may want to add that line in also.

vcd4me

02-24-2003 04:54 PM

Thanks dazed&confused

I think I am dazed and confused :lol:

No offence to black prince but I am a total newbie and that guide obviosly isn't intended for a newbie.

Thanks for your help everyone but all this work and still nothing.

I have no idea on how to change all these things that you are telling me. I have very little computer experience. I only know how to run the programs not change them around.

I think I should just stick to making regular vcds/svcds, because i need way too much help.

Thanks
VCD4me

kwag	02-24-2003 05:06 PM

Don't give up vcd4me :!: It will soon "Snap in" :lol:

-kwag

heyitsme

02-24-2003 05:16 PM

Something that could help you would be to install dvd2svcd just for it to automatically install the vfapi readers and avisynth correctly. That is what i do as a shortcut when i periodically reformat my harddrives. That should work for ya. Good luck

Branden

black prince

02-24-2003 06:13 PM

@vcd4me,

Try "MovieStacker" to build the avs script. Check for it on "Downloads".
It installs all your "Loadplugin" files and builds the script for you.
Your right!! My Guide is not for someone without any former experience,
but it won't take long for you to get the hang of it :wink:

-black prince

vcd4me

02-25-2003 11:05 AM

Thanks everybody

I'll try again .

Black Prince thanks for not taking ofense to what I wrote and thanks for the tip about movie stacker. I'll give it a try.

I have a few questions about movie stacker though..

1.When I use movie stacker - is the source file that I enter an actual movie file ?(example-Blade2-d2v).
2. Does movie stacker take the place of this avisyth (step 4) ?
3. After I use Movie stacker do I then use tmpgenc?

Thanks for the encouragement everyone

Signed
VCD4ME

kwag	02-25-2003 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vcd4me

1.When I use movie stacker - is the source file that I enter an actual movie file ?(example-Blade2-d2v).

The source you open with MovieStacker is the .d2v project file that you create with DVD2AVI if your source is a DVD, or you open your AVI directly if it's a DivX, etc.

Quote:

2. Does movie stacker take the place of this avisyth (step 4) ?

MovieStacker automatically creates your .avs script.

Quote:

3. After I use Movie stacker do I then use tmpgenc?

Yes :D. You open the new .avs script with TMPEG.

-kwag

vcd4me

02-25-2003 07:12 PM

OK I didn't give up yet

I just made my avs file I loaded it into movie stacker and I got an error

"Unrecognized Exception"

I also can change these numbers
Settings>Video>GOP Structure> I=1, P=24, B=2, GOP=1, Max frames GOP=24. They are greyed out

I now have more questions

1. How do I fix those numbers?

2.Once I load the .avs file into movie stacker are there any settings/ numbers I have to change?

Thanks in advance
VCD4ME

kwag	02-25-2003 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vcd4me

OK I didn't give up yet

I just made my avs file I loaded it into movie stacker and I got an error

"Unrecognized Exception"

Check your settings here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2223

Quote:

I also can change these numbers
Settings>Video>GOP Structure> I=1, P=24, B=2, GOP=1, Max frames GOP=24. They are greyed out

Why would you want to change them :?: Those are the values set specifically for the templates.

-kwag

vcd4me

02-25-2003 08:18 PM

I wrote

Quote:

also can change these numbers
Settings>Video>GOP Structure> I=1, P=24, B=2, GOP=1, Max frames GOP=24. They are greyed out

You wrote

Quote:

Why would you want to change them Those are the values set specifically for the templates.

I think I confused you :lol: What I should have wrote is how can I change the I,B,P, Gopa, and MAx because mine are greyed out and
What I forgot to mention is my numbers are as follows ...
I=1
P=5823
B=2
GOP=1
Max = 24

So In according to the guide the guide my P is #s are wrong

I also noticed that in tmpgenc environmental settings>vfapi plug ins there is one line that says

The file cannot be loaded read avs.dll priority 0

How can I fix that?

Thanks
Signed VCD4ME

kwag	02-25-2003 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vcd4me

Ignore that. Read Q-29 here later: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68

Quote:

I also noticed that in tmpgenc environmental settings>vfapi plug ins there is one line that says

The file cannot be loaded read avs.dll priority 0

How can I fix that?

Did you verify that your TMPEG settings are identical to the screenshots in the link in the previous post :?:

-kwag

vcd4me

02-25-2003 08:38 PM

well not only do not have the read avs dll correct

I also don't have that external tool scmpx\scmpx.exe

I just noticed that it said use tmpgenc 2.58 not 2.59
i have 2.510

Thanks as usuall kwag
signed VCD4Me

kwag	02-25-2003 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vcd4me

I also don't have that external tool scmpx\scmpx.exe

That is optional. You don't need it.

Quote:

I just noticed that it said use tmpgenc 2.58 not 2.59
i have 2.510

2.510 is fine :)

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