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GORI 03-07-2003 03:26 AM

KVCDx3 template without any filters?
 
This question is present in another treath but till now I have no reply so I try tu ask you directly.

As I'm not very used to change PC configuration :oops: I would like to know the benefit in therm of file lenght and time to encode before to change all my present configuration and ........ risk :Drunk: to crash my PC.

I already tried to encode with KVCDx3 template 480-576 resolution with a lot of satisfation. Now I can fit 75-90 min of movie in one CD with CQ of 70-75. Now I would like to make the jump to 120 min in one CD using the best filters you use but before, I wolud like to know the influence of these filter over the lenght an the time to encode.

So if it is possible for you , could you try to make 3 test and put the results on a table in a way that all the people who read in the forum can understand an chose if it's better to put a movie in one or two CD.

1) first test - 2 min of an action movie (whathever you want) - 480*576 resolution with CQ75 standard GOP a Q matrix and without any filters - Results: lenght of file and time to encode.

2) second test - 480*576 resolution with with CQ75, KVCDx3 template and without any filters - Results: lenght of file and time to encode.

3) Third test - 480*576 resolution with with CQ75, KVCDx3 template and all the filters that you are using at the moment - Results: lenght of file and time to encode.

Thank you in advance for your help.

GORI 03-17-2003 07:20 AM

Re: Question for KWAG
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GORI
This question is present in another treath but till now I have no reply so I try tu ask you directly.

.........


Thank you in advance for your help.

As I received a lot of help from Kwag after this question ........... :roll: ........ with the real help of "LABOMBA","heyitsme" and "muaddib" in these days I'm completing a lot of test with a lot of configuration.

All the test was made with DVD source like input.

The results are ... very very interesting :lol: 8O :twisted:

So... before to post the table with the results with the dimension of files produced and time to encode... I would like to know from you wich are the best filters to reduce the dimension of files if the source input is DVD (that means a source very clean) without losing detail of immage.

That's to validate all my results, and give to all the people reading this forum a "map" to understand if is "time" worth to use the filters and try to reach the "120 min on one CD goal".

kwag 03-18-2003 11:48 AM

GORI,

All your questions have been addressed many times before. It's not necessary to do this, or to re(prove) this again :wink: Read here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2073

-kwag

digitalize 03-18-2003 11:51 AM

These two filters used together help reduce file size and is fast:
SpaceDust()
TemporalCleaner()

This creates great compression but is extremely slow and may make your movie a little too soft for your tastes:
FaeryDust()
TemporalCleaner()
Convolution3D(preset="movieHQ")

You could also try this for a smaller file, but for me it is too soft of a picture:
mergechroma(blur(1.50))
mergeluma(blur(0.2))
SpaceDust()
FluxSmooth()
NoMoSmooth()
TemporalCleaner()
Convolution3D(preset="movieHQ")


Here is a good thread about compressing your DVD movies. There are links to video samples in the thread, that show the great looking results of super compression:
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....ghlight=s1mone

dazedconfused 03-18-2003 09:50 PM

Re: Question for KWAG
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GORI
That's to validate all my results, and give to all the people reading this forum a "map" to understand if is "time" worth to use the filters and try to reach the "120 min on one CD goal".

Of course it's worth it to use avisynth filters! :wink: They're great!!!

As Kwag previously mentioned, the info you were asking about has been done many times before and can be found throughout many posts in the forums, but I just got done doing some tests of my own today with different filter combinations and I posted the results (including Time To Encode and Filesize) here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3136&start=15. Hope you find it useful.

-d&c

GORI 03-21-2003 07:05 AM

Many thank's to

kwag
digitalize
dazed&confused

for the help and the links

Now I can understand something It's was uncomprensible to me.

Thank you very much !!!! :D :D :D


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