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Insider 04-26-2003 09:45 AM

VirtualDub: same results with VDM as Moviestacker?
 
I've test the programm. And now my question: Can I have also the same results with VDM as Moviestacker?

Which Filters should I choose?

Insider

kwag 04-26-2003 10:38 AM

Sure!, just create your scripts with MovieStacker, and then open the .avs with Vdub. Then frameserve! I guess that's what you want to do :roll:

-kwag

Insider 04-26-2003 10:56 AM

Cool Thank you for your answer.
But is the quality realy better as normal VBR or CQ?

Insider

kwag 04-26-2003 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insider
Cool Thank you for your answer.
But is the quality realy better as normal VBR or CQ?

Insider

Quality of CQ is better than regular VBR.

-kwag

Insider 04-26-2003 12:50 PM

Realy but why.
I've heard 2pass is the best because he analyse the scenes before.

Insider

kwag 04-26-2003 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insider
Realy but why.
I've heard 2pass is the best because he analyse the scenes before.

Insider

Not so for TMPEG :!:
Here's why: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2073
Take your time reading. The answer is somewhere in that thread, whith screenshots too 8)

-kwag

jorel 04-26-2003 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Sure!, just create your scripts with MovieStacker, and then open the .avs with Vdub. Then frameserve! I guess that's what you want to do :roll:

-kwag

great!
:wink:

using in the MovieStacker script something like this:
....
Legalclip()
Trim(0,56417)
fadein(30)
fadeout2(120)
...
Legalclip()
...

this open fine in vdubmod.
how can i extract the audio file (wave)
from this "frameserved" trim???
:?

thanks!
:)

Boulder 04-27-2003 05:05 AM

You can select 'save WAV' from the AVI menu.

jorel 04-27-2003 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boulder
You can select 'save WAV' from the AVI menu.

thanks Boulder. :D
please,help me more:

i got from all vobs ripped and after use the dvd2avi176:

movie_file.dv2 and
audio_file.ac3.

using this script:
(from MovieStacker mixed with dvd2svcd script,works great!) :wink:

LoadPlugin("C:\DVD2SVCD1\MPEG2DEC\MPEG2DEC.DLL")
Mpeg2Source("D:\La Luna\Segment2\DVD2AVI_PROJECT_FILE.d2v")
SmartDeinterlace(2,10,True,False,True)
LoadPlugin("C:\DVD2SVCD1\Dlls\Legalclip.dll")
Legalclip()
BicubicResize(464, 464, 0, 0.6, 0, 0, 720, 480)
LoadPlugin("C:\DVD2SVCD1\Dlls\STMedianFilter.dll")
STMedianFilter(10, 50, 0, 0, 10, 50)
LoadPlugin("C:\DVD2SVCD1\Dlls\UnFilter.dll")
Unfilter(50,50)
temporalsmoother(1,2)
LoadPlugin("C:\DVD2SVCD1\Dlls\MergeChroma.dll")
mergechroma(blur(1.58))
LoadPlugin("C:\DVD2SVCD1\Dlls\MergeLuma.dll")
mergeluma(blur(0.3))
AddBorders(8, 8, 8, 8)
Legalclip()
Trim(0,56417)
fadein(30)
fadeout2(120)

i can open the video in VDub and
select the frame using trim in the script like this:
Trim(0,56417) the local that i want to cut.

when i try:
file,save wave...i got this advise:
"no input audio stream to extract"

but how can i extract the audio(wave) file
if only the video is loaded in VirtualDub?

what i have to do?....or what i don't did? :? :?

thanks in advance!
:wink:

CheronAph 04-27-2003 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Quote:

Originally Posted by Insider
Realy but why.
I've heard 2pass is the best because he analyse the scenes before.

Insider

Not so for TMPEG :!:
Here's why: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2073
Take your time reading. The answer is somewhere in that thread, whith screenshots too 8)

-kwag

Just looked at the samples, how in earth did you do that, my encodings look more like the first picture, and I use CQ!

Boulder 04-27-2003 10:40 AM

jorel,

the d2v file produced by doesn't include any audio, it's only meant for video. The audio track is in the separate AC3 file which has to be operated as you want to.

BeSweet GUI offers cutting by seconds, which I sometimes use. I don't know how HeadAC3he handles the cutting and I'm not even sure if there are any frame accurate AC3->MP2 encoders.

Another possibility is to encode the whole AC3 file to a WAV file, opening the WAV file in GoldWave for example and cutting it there (the accuracy should be sufficient for the cause) and then encoding the WAV file to MP2. The quality will take a small hit but this way you'll get the fadeouts and fadeins.

And no, I'm not studying too much :wink:

black prince 04-27-2003 10:41 AM

@jorel,

It's been some time since I used MPEG Mediator to extract .wav
files, but this will solve your problem. DVD2AVI will also, extract
and convert the audio to .wav file :) Use this in your script to trim
both audio and video in sync:

video=mpeg2source("D:\..... .d2v")
audio=wavsource("D:\......... .wav")
"
"
trim(AudioDub(video,audio),0,12620)

-bp

Boulder 04-27-2003 12:45 PM

That's true, although I would use BeSweet/HeadAC3he to produce the WAV file instead of DVD2AVI. I'm quite sure the quality is better and you'll also get to use the surround2 downmix.

jorel 04-27-2003 02:03 PM

thank you Boulder and "bp"!

:D

help me a lot (like ever) :wink:

:!:

jorel 04-29-2003 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Sure!, just create your scripts with MovieStacker, and then open the .avs with Vdub. Then frameserve! I guess that's what you want to do :roll:

-kwag

:oops:

Kwag and friends,please:

how can i frameserve opening the .avs in vdub? :? :?

ps:
please, i need complete lessons
:wink:

muaddib 04-29-2003 02:53 PM

Hey guys,

What about extracting the AC3 with DVD2AVI, then converting the AC3 to WAV with HeadAC3he
(preserving the surround information) and then opening the WAV in AviSynth with WAVSource?
This way you will cut the WAV with the TRIM filter.
You can also fade-in/out the sound with the video!

The only bad point is that you will have to encode to MP2 inside TMPGEnc.
But you can always use tooLame or scmpx as an external encoder.

jorel 04-29-2003 05:30 PM

muaddib,

you ever makes me fell...
8O 8O
with your ideas.

you're fantastic too my friend!

can you post a little sample script please?
:wink:


:D :D

muaddib 04-29-2003 07:59 PM

Hi jorel,

I should be something like this:

Code:

Mpeg2Source("movie.d2v")
WAVSource("movie.wav")
Trim(0, 23456)
FadeIn(60)
FadeOut2(120)
(...)

I never did this. You will have to test it, but I don't see any reason to it not work.
In TMPG use the same script for video and audio sources,
but make sure you use tooLame or scmpx as an external encoder.
TMPG internal MP2 encoder is not a choice. :wink:

jorel 04-29-2003 09:52 PM

:!:
thanks muaddib.

:D

Boulder 04-30-2003 12:09 AM

Don't forget to download the latest tooLAME package at SourceForge, it was finally updated a while ago :D


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