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plautzer 05-25-2003 04:47 PM

YEah,
I went through it,
but still the quailty isnt any better!!!
My source(DVD) is NTSC and I convert to PAL, does that worsen the quality??

Plautzer

plautzer 05-25-2003 04:55 PM

oh and another thing!!
When I load the .d2v in moviestacker it show the movie lengh 89min,
but actually the movie is 108min??
I loaded it, like it was said in the tutorial, 3-4 times, it was always 89min!!!
Should I Leave the 89min, or do I have to do that part manually??

Thx

Plautzer

kwag 05-25-2003 07:26 PM

Hi plautzer,

Download the KVCD Compatibility Image, and burn it to a CD-R. You might not have to convert between NTSC to PAL, because most (all?) standalone DVD players (NTSC or PAL) play either format :!:
Not so for DVDs, but for VCDs, yes :!:
So download the image here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2464 and burn it with Nero and see what plays on your standalone DVD player.

-kwag

plautzer 05-26-2003 09:34 AM

hi,
I uses deinterlace. like it was told me, but it didnt got better at all.
here my script:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\MPEG2Dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\DecombLegacy.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\GripFit_preview.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\BlockBuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\UnFilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\LegalClip.dll")

Mpeg2Source("C:\boondock.d2v")
LegalClip()
FieldDeinterlace()
GripCrop(704, 480, overscan=1, source_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
UnFilter(50, 50)
TemporalSmoother(1, 2)
MergeChroma(blur(1.58))
MergeLuma(blur(0.2))
BlockBuster(method="noise", detail_max=7, seed=1)
GripBorders()
LegalClip()

I use 704,480 but I load another template in TMPGenc with 352,240!!!

PLau

plautzer 05-26-2003 05:59 PM

should I use XVCD or 3/4 DVD small in Moviestacker??
I use now tok, and the quality is a bit better!!
I mean it's fine in the small windows, but fullscreen :arrow: looks ugly!!!
You have little squares around the border of the bodies!!

Plautzer

kwag 05-26-2003 06:01 PM

Use 3/4 DVD (small) ( KVCDx3 )

-kwag

plautzer 05-28-2003 04:54 PM

I should I use KVCDx3 when I use TOK??
U cant load the that in there!!
And I figured that res. 3/4 DVDsmall to big iss.. I try it with 352/240 again, there I get a least a CQ 80.

Plautzer

kwag 05-28-2003 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plautzer
I should I use KVCDx3 when I use TOK??
U cant load the that in there!!

There is no notion of "Templates" in ToK. KVCD parameters are already built in ToK. When it "calls" TMPEG, it supplies all parameters automatically. You just set the resolution to 528x480 on your script, and everything else is done automatically.

-kwag

plautzer 05-28-2003 05:56 PM

Yes,
I did that, but the CQ was only 45.49 that's too less!!
I put now the resolution doen to 352/240 and the Co is 80!!
I cant put it higher cuz I wanna put on 1 CD!!
Are there more compromises??
Or do I have to put on 2 CDs in order to receive a quality??

Plautzer

kwag 05-28-2003 06:14 PM

I guess that for that particular case, you have three options:
(1) One disk at 352x240 for extremely good VCD quality
(2) One disk at 352x480 (Make a small sample and see if quality is ok for you)
(3) Two disks at 528x480 for "DVD Like" quality :wink:

-kwag

plautzer 05-28-2003 06:36 PM

hi,
what should I put at precision??
What's the difference between 1.0 and 0.5??

Plautzer

plautzer 05-29-2003 04:13 PM

hi,
I took number one.. and the result is amazing, it's like DVD!!!
But the .m1v size is 750... and the audio file is 100mb.. now I have to lower it to 64kb just to get on one CD!!
Now, it makes to files 800mb and 50mb-> takes suckz that TOk did do that right!!
I loaded the audio file in there but it didnt do it!!
Is there another way to make the video file smaller?? and faster then normal encoding process?


Plautzer

plautzer 05-30-2003 06:06 AM

hi,
i encoded to muvies (tok) and the quality is like dvd, but tok made the video files to big, now I have to use 56kbps!!
And when I play it skips on my dvd player!!!
that shouldnt be, does it skip because of the overburn, or what??
I burned with VCDeasy and Nero -> same thing!!

Cu

plautzer

kwag 05-30-2003 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plautzer
hi,
i encoded to muvies (tok) and the quality is like dvd, but tok made the video files to big, now I have to use 56kbps!!
And when I play it skips on my dvd player!!!
that shouldnt be, does it skip because of the overburn, or what??
I burned with VCDeasy and Nero -> same thing!!

Cu

plautzer

It's probably skipping because of the audio bitrate!
I never use audio bitrates below 112Kbps. That's the minimum :!:
Did you make sure when you encoded with ToK, that you had the audio size selected checked :?: That is "Calculated Audio Size" under the "Audio & More" tab.

-kwag

plautzer 05-30-2003 12:07 PM

I'm 100% positive that I loaded that audio file!!
How can I make that file 50mb smaller??
I dont have the dvd source anymor!!

plautzer

mfb 05-30-2003 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plautzer
I'm 100% positive that I loaded that audio file!!
How can I make that file 50mb smaller??
I dont have the dvd source anymor!!

plautzer

Hi plautzer,
You may want you try to cut off the final-credits and/or the intro...this
can save you a certain amount of MBs (depands of your movie, ofcourse)
use BBMPEG's start second / end second or better set max-size to the
amount that your cd-r media max. can be written (with overburn)

regards, ***mfb***

plautzer 05-30-2003 02:03 PM

I did that already and it's still 50mbs to big!!

plautzer 05-31-2003 09:09 AM

hi,
encoded a small video file(CQ 80) and 128/160kbps audio files, and both skip, is not as the first one but still it is skipping!!
What can I do now??


plautzer

plautzer 06-03-2003 04:52 PM

I didnt have any success with my encoding, i did everythink like it was told me.
I used both resolution 352/240 and 352/480 -> both qualities are crappy!!
When I wanna encode it for 2 cds then it takes damn long, how much time does ur encding take??
14 hour is a bit long!!!!
Do u have nay other suggestion for me want I could do better??

Thx

Plautzer

Yoda 06-04-2003 08:03 AM

Make sure your audio is downsampled from 48 to 44.1. If you mux your video with a 48khz audio you movie will skip. Another thing when using TOK, set the calculated audio size bit rate to 160 then run for cq prediction. This will lower the cq a little bit to get the video file size down to fit with the audio.

-Yoda


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