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telemike 07-09-2003 03:26 PM

D2SRoBa for DVD2SVCD
 
I am having good success using this plugin for d2S for making SVCDS.

http://home.no.net/tylo/

Quote:

Adds Robshot/Bach one pass VBR encoding to DVD2SVCD. It can also be used for estimating required number of CD, based on compressability, bitrate, video resolution, and length. For multipass VBR encoding, this plugin automates the bitrate tweaking for ending credit text, when using RB's EclCCE + CCE 2.66+.

jorel 07-09-2003 05:57 PM

oh yes telemike,
i knew "roba way" a few months ago
and seems to work very fine,but i never test it.
did you use and got good results?

thread in d9:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...0&pagenumber=1

i want to know if have a way to work with tmpgenc too.
Bach is brasilian(like me) and some day i will call him to ask.
:wink:

telemike 07-10-2003 12:51 PM

It does a pretty good job of file prediction with CCE. You can set a target of how many cd's you or the minimu quality you can stand and let it automatically do the number of cd's.

telemike 07-14-2003 03:08 PM

This is a cool proggie for D2s and CCE. It still has a few bugs, but works pretty good. Check it out :P

telemike 07-15-2003 06:39 AM

Anyone here willing to give it a try?

GFR 11-12-2003 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorel
oh yes telemike,
i knew "roba way" a few months ago
and seems to work very fine,but i never test it.
did you use and got good results?

thread in d9:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...0&pagenumber=1

i want to know if have a way to work with tmpgenc too.
Bach is brasilian(like me) and some day i will call him to ask.
:wink:

Hi Jorel,

:dunce: After reading many obfuscated threads in doom9, I think I finally understood "Roba" (thanks to r6d2's and DdogG's posts) .

From what I understood, you do a file size prediction and then do a CQ-based encoding. If the final size is too big or too small, you feed this CQ encode to a "2nd pass" VBR encode, that will fix the size.

If the CQ pass was *slightly* too big, this 2nd pass file fix would not ruin the CQ "magic", hopefully. :)

If the CQ pass was too small, this 2nd pass file fix could make it better because it would increase bitrate here and there to fill the disk.

Now, with TMPGEnc this is not easy (possible?) because 2-pass VBR is not two separate jobs like in CCE, but a single, looong job. So you don't have how to "fool" it into using a CQ encode as the first pass for the 2nd pass (at least I don't know how).

Also, with TMPGENc it's not so necessary, because TMPGENc's CQ is a float number while in CCE it's an integer. So our prediction is much "tighter" than with CCE.

I think the closer to RoBa we can get with TMPGEnc current versions is what's discussed here:

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....er=asc&start=0


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