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rrector 07-19-2003 07:26 PM

KVCD: File Size Problems?
 
I made a few samples comparing the different formats (VCD, SVCD, KVCD) with TMPGEnc version 2.59.47.155, and noticed that VCD and KVCD were both exactly the same size...I loaded the templates for each of them, and this makes little sense to me. I was expecting KVCD to be a bit smaller, to fit 120 minutes instead of 80 on a cd. Oddly enough, even the ULBR template ended up with the same size...
The templates that I used:

KVCD-ULBR-352x240-_NTSCFilm_-PLUS.mcf
KVCD-CQ-352x240-_NTSCFilm_-PLUS.mcf
KVCD-CQ-352x480-_NTSCFilm_-PLUS.mcf
and the VCD project wizard for regular vcd.
I also added 224kbps 44.1 kHz Stereo audio, can't very well watch a movie with no audio...

kwag 07-19-2003 07:44 PM

Really :!:
Well, maybe you should read the guides, and learn about file size prediction.
Go to www.kvcd.net and look on the right side under "Articles".
Start with the "KVCD from Scratch" guide.
Then you'll get over two hours of video on a single CD-R, and it will look like this:

www.kvcd.net/704x480-showoff.mpg
www.kvcd.net/small-adaptive-sampler.mpg
www.kvcd.net/red-planed-action-704x480.mpg
www.kvcd.net/red-planet-704x480.mpg
www.kvcd.net/red-planet-extreme-704x480.mpg

-kwag

dazedconfused 07-19-2003 11:36 PM

Also, get rid of TMPG version 2.59! Only use 2.58 or 2.510 or higher! Version 2.59 has got a nasty bug in it's muxer that leads to non-standard vcd files (like kvcds) turning out larger than they should be (and you really should use bbmpeg to mux instead of tmpg anyways...it does a better job of muxing).

Do some reading here and you shouldn't have any problems creating great looking KVCDs. Good luck.

-d&c

kwag 07-19-2003 11:47 PM

Thanks for that point -d&c :)
I didn't notice that one :!:

-kwag

Avalon 07-20-2003 01:53 PM

awesome

And only with the shnatch guide? I never get this quality!!! So the samples are 2 CD Versions!!!! Or not?

I`ll try and try ... I think i should read this guide ...

kwag 07-20-2003 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avalon

And only with the shnatch guide? I never get this quality!!!

What is the "shnatch guide 8O :?:
Quote:

So the samples are 2 CD Versions!!!! Or not?
All samples are for one CD-R :cool:

-kwag

Avalon 07-21-2003 12:12 AM

:oops: :oops: :oops:
Quote:

Start with the "KVCD from Scratch" guide. :oops: :oops: :oops:
Sorry sometimes my tipping is to fast!!! ICQ User...

WWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW

And how can I get this Quality on OOOOOOOONNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEE
CD?

kwag 07-21-2003 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avalon

WWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW

And how can I get this Quality on OOOOOOOONNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEE
CD?

Use the optimal script ;)
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3483

-kwag


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