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Daagar 07-08-2002 09:44 PM

Kwag: I've had horrible luck in the past using bbMPG - buffer underruns/overflows, desync, bloated files... eesh. If you could suggest some settings that you use when muxing the video/audio streams, that would be most helpful. (IE., MPEG-1 vs. VCD stream type, etc.)

kwag 07-08-2002 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daagar
Kwag: I've had horrible luck in the past using bbMPG - buffer underruns/overflows, desync, bloated files... eesh. If you could suggest some settings that you use when muxing the video/audio streams, that would be most helpful. (IE., MPEG-1 vs. VCD stream type, etc.)

It's very simple. When you run BBmpeg, first click on "Add", then "Cancel".
That's to clear up the BBmpeg bug that bombs out when you try to open your video or audio streams.
Click start encoding/Settings/Input and output files and select your input video, audio, and your output file name.
The click on the Program Stream Settings and do the following:
Check VCD.
Check VBR.
And set "Forced mux rate (in 50 bytes/sec units): to 0


That's it!. Click ok. The other values should be left at default.
Here's my screenshot of what yours has to look like:
http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i.../2002/07/1.jpg


kwag

Daagar 07-08-2002 10:12 PM

Excellent, thanks. It was the combo of doing both 'VBR' and forcing the mux rate to 0 that I don't think I did... probably one or the other, but not both. No wonder!

muaddib 07-08-2002 11:28 PM

Hey Kwag,

Great, GREAT quality with the new templates!!!!!
Please, tell us more about your settings for these samples.
Did you use any filters in VDub, AviSynth, TMPG?
Did you cut/resize with AviSynth or use the source directly in TMPG?
Any secrets? :D Cause the quality is amazing! 8O

kwag 07-09-2002 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muaddib
Hey Kwag,

Great, GREAT quality with the new templates!!!!!
Please, tell us more about your settings for these samples.
Did you use any filters in VDub, AviSynth, TMPG?
Did you cut/resize with AviSynth or use the source directly in TMPG?
Any secrets? :D Cause the quality is amazing! 8O

In a word: N.O.T.H.I.N.G :lol:
Just processed the .avs script without any filters. Used the templates just like the ones posted. I just finished "The Matrix" with the 352x480 template. The video stream size came out to 823,261KB. Too big to go in one CD.
But you want to see what it looks like? For the quality, hell, I'll just encode the audio now to 224Khz and mux it to go in 2 CD's :lol:
Here's a sample of what it looks: http://ns1.shidima.com/kwag/matrix-352x480.mpg (Video only. No audio )
Can you tell the difference from this sample and a SVCD??
I don't think so :lol: . Oh yeah, about half the size :lol:
Can't wait for my 704x480 encode to finish :lol: :lol:
Got 6 hours to go. So that result will be tomorrow.

Se'ya!,
kwag

DaDe 07-09-2002 02:03 AM

5823 ha? :lol:

Just one question, why you deactivated the no motion search for bla bla...? it doesn't help anymore?

DaDe.

kwag 07-09-2002 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaDe
5823 ha? :lol:

Just one question, why you deactivated the no motion search for bla bla...? it doesn't help anymore?

DaDe.

5823! AHA! You're the first one to mention that. Can you guess what it means?

As for "no motion search", deactivating it makes smaller files :wink:

kwag

DaDe 07-09-2002 08:42 AM

Well, the 58 is the resulting number from adding the total days of february and april. The 23 was michael jordan's number in his golden years... am i right? :lol:

DaDe.

Daagar 07-09-2002 09:04 AM

Interesting... it appears the new template is a bit size-unfriendly to DivX conversions, for those that attempt them. I did a little 100min movie, and it came out to 835meg, video only. Larger than 136min The Matrix! No changes to the template, 352x480, TemporalSmoother(2,2). Just an FYI.

syk2c11 07-09-2002 09:59 AM

Kwag,
I have downloaded the headAC3he but the extention is ".rar" What is it? how to install or it is a plug-in for another program.

Just for those people who are interested in the same program, there is a guide in "www.doom9.org" (on left panel click "The Guides" and "audio guides" and scroll down, you will see AC3 to MP2, there you go! However, this guide did not tell how to install headAC3he.

DaDe 07-09-2002 11:00 AM

I'm not kwag but i can tell you this: RAR is a compression format like ZIP so, as Winzip there's a program to decompress RAR files called Winrar, it's easy to find in any search engine. By the way winrar has better compresion than zip but is not so popular.

DaDe.

TKS 07-09-2002 12:05 PM

here
 
syk2c11:

Get the newest version of Winrar, perferably 3... thatll help ya


tks

Daagar 07-09-2002 12:28 PM

RAR is just a compression format. http://www.rarlab.com has the tool you need to uncompress it.

If you aren't scared of a lot of options, BeSweet appears to be headac3he on steroids, and is under much more active development. Guides for it are also available on doom9.org. Just make sure you grab the GUI - BeSweet via command-line alone is a bit daunting.

kwag 07-09-2002 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaDe
Well, the 58 is the resulting number from adding the total days of february and april. The 23 was michael jordan's number in his golden years... am i right? :lol:

DaDe.

Wrong! :lol: Nice try!.
Hint: Look at your telephone :roll:

kwag

kwag 07-09-2002 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daagar
Interesting... it appears the new template is a bit size-unfriendly to DivX conversions, for those that attempt them. I did a little 100min movie, and it came out to 835meg, video only. Larger than 136min The Matrix! No changes to the template, 352x480, TemporalSmoother(2,2). Just an FYI.

It depends on the quality of the DivX. If it's a little blocky, or you can see some very minor blocks on the DivX, you bet!. It will be amplified. The cleaner the source, the cleaner the destination.

kwag

DaDe 07-09-2002 12:52 PM

Ohhhhh 8O that was a good one, i was very very close! :wink:

Very, Very nice signature!

Right now im encoding a vcr capture with the new templates, i'll tell you how big it came at night...

Saludos!

DaDe.

Yoda 07-09-2002 01:09 PM

kwag,
do you do a full encode then break into two files if longer than 800? i haven't come up with an easy way to determine if it's going to be too long for 1 cd.

kwag 07-09-2002 01:28 PM

Result of "The Matrix at 704x480
 
It's done. The complete 136 minute movie. It's SUPER :lol: The video stream size is 1,302,091KB + 224,000KB audio stream will be approx. 1,526,091. So that muxes perfectly with room to spare in two 80 minute CD's. So the 704x480 should fit just about any 120 minute ( wide screen + IVTC ) in 2 CD.s
Wana look :lol: here's a sample: http://ns1.shidima.com/kwag/matrix-704x480.mpg ( soundless sample )
kwag

kwag 07-09-2002 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda
kwag,
do you do a full encode then break into two files if longer than 800? i haven't come up with an easy way to determine if it's going to be too long for 1 cd.

Yes. I do a full encode and then mux the video/audio in two parts with BBmpeg. Works flawlessly!.

kwag

rendalunit 07-09-2002 01:47 PM

hi kwag,

I'm still having major audio sync problems since I started encoding the audio with headac3e and muxing with tmpgenc. So I wan't to try muxing with bbmpeg but the guide (link in faq) says SVCD- should I change this to mpeg1 (under program stream settings) and keep all the settings the same?

thanks,
ren
do you run into problems when muxing with TMPGenc?

kwag 07-09-2002 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rendalunit
hi kwag,

I'm still having major audio sync problems since I started encoding the audio with headac3e and muxing with tmpgenc. So I wan't to try muxing with bbmpeg but the guide (link in faq) says SVCD- should I change this to mpeg1 (under program stream settings) and keep all the settings the same?

thanks,
ren
do you run into problems when muxing with TMPGenc?

Hi ren!

Here's a post I replied with a screenshot of how to mux with BBmpeg:
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....bc93446fe41133

It's right here in this thread. Just go back one page.

kwag

rendalunit 07-09-2002 02:08 PM

:oops: Geez, I read that post earlier but it didn't sink in (I guess because I was trying to figure out what 5823 meant ) :lol:

THANKS!

twobit326 07-09-2002 09:24 PM

Problem with Headach3
 
Um, I'm having this problem and I've noticed some other's are reporting it on the h3adach3 forum. When I try to convert a wav audio file to a mp2 file for a movie. (Correctly converted to wav in VirtualDub) I get an error message saying it can find mp2.dll! :evil: :evil: This is wrong because I followed the directions and put it in the same directory.

PLEASE HELP!!!! I want to watch my movie!!!!!

Thanx,
Twobit326 :wink:

mpierce 07-25-2002 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daagar
Kwag: I've had horrible luck in the past using bbMPG - buffer underruns/overflows, desync, bloated files... eesh. If you could suggest some settings that you use when muxing the video/audio streams, that would be most helpful. (IE., MPEG-1 vs. VCD stream type, etc.)

It's very simple. When you run BBmpeg, first click on "Add", then "Cancel".
That's to clear up the BBmpeg bug that bombs out when you try to open your video or audio streams.
Click start encoding/Settings/Input and output files and select your input video, audio, and your output file name.
The click on the Program Stream Settings and do the following:
Check VCD.
Check VBR.
And set "Forced mux rate (in 50 bytes/sec units): to 0


That's it!. Click ok. The other values should be left at default.
Here's my screenshot of what yours has to look like:
http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i.../2002/07/1.jpg


kwag

Hi Kwag,

Perhaps silly questions, but...

1) If I am using the 704x480 1cd template (not the plus one), should I remux in VCD or SVCD?

2) Also, should I burn in VCD or SVCD? I am concerned that my Mintek 1600 may not recognize something burned in SVCD.

3) Would your responses be any different for the plus templates?

Your feedback is appreciated.

Thanks.
100571

kwag 07-25-2002 01:07 PM

Hi 100571:

I really can't answer your question, because I don't have a Mintek :cry:
This should be answered (hopefully!) by someone who has a Mintek 1600 and has played KVCD's on it.

-kwag

DaDe 07-25-2002 01:31 PM

Hey Kwag! Saludos! It's been so long...

As always i have a question for you... how do you split the file in two parts with bbmpeg??? I'm using tmpgenc's mpeg tools but i can't make an accurate cut with it, any help will be appreciated.

DaDe.

mpierce 07-25-2002 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Hi 100571:

I really can't answer your question, because I don't have a Mintek :cry:
This should be answered (hopefully!) by someone who has a Mintek 1600 and has played KVCD's on it.

-kwag

Kwag,

Thanks. Please disregard the Mintek comment and kindly let me know what you use. Then, I can tweak settings from there.

Thanks.
100571

kwag 07-25-2002 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 100571
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Hi 100571:

I really can't answer your question, because I don't have a Mintek :cry:
This should be answered (hopefully!) by someone who has a Mintek 1600 and has played KVCD's on it.

-kwag

Kwag,

Thanks. Please disregard the Mintek comment and kindly let me know what you use. Then, I can tweak settings from there.

Thanks.
100571

Hi 100571:

I encode with the templates as they are. No modifications at all. I can play all KVCD templates in my DVD players, which are:

Panasonic portable DVD-L10
Panasonic RP-56
Panasonic DMR-E20
JVC XV-F80BK
Sony NS300

-kwag

kwag 07-25-2002 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaDe
Hey Kwag! Saludos! It's been so long...

As always i have a question for you... how do you split the file in two parts with bbmpeg??? I'm using tmpgenc's mpeg tools but i can't make an accurate cut with it, any help will be appreciated.

DaDe.

Check the "General" tab under "settings" in BBmpeg. There you'll see where it says start/stop/size options.

Saludos!,
-kwag


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