KVCD: is the bitrate actually running at 1800kbs?
I've been defending the KVCD format tooth and nail at another forum.
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From what I percieved in this little argument,as I didn't quote it all they seem to think that all the templates run at a bitrate the same as a vcd.Does it?Because from what I have seen both on my computer,on my home DVD player,on my laptop and 2 other friends laptops(different specs as well) the quality doesn't change.It seems hard for these people to belive that a 2 cd-r kvcd is just as good if not better than a 3 cd-r Svcd. My main question is the bitrate.If I use the 352x480(running at 2500kbs) and am able to compress it to one cd-r is the bitrate actually running at 2500 or is it running at 1150 like a vcd?From what I have seen,I have tested the exact same rip,using smartripper,dvd-avi turned into a KVCD and an SVCD and the quality of a 2cd-r kvcd was exactly the same as a 3-4 cd-r SVCD. |
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Why do we use MIN=300, MAX=2,500 :?: The reason is, because the bitrate is variable, we take that to our advantage. So to answer your questions, no matter what resolution you encode, if you set MIN=300 and MAX=2,500, that is the bracket range that the bitrate will fluctuate. So you'll get maximum ox 2,500Kbps on high action peaks, and the bitrate will go down to 300Kbps on low action/dark scenes. Quote:
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I have a rough idea where you quoted those lines :cool: You are correct, that KVCDs quality is 2 CDs, can only be achieved in about 4 SVCD disks. This has been proven here over and over again. Bit some people "there" at that other site, just seem to ignore this reality. They'll tell you that they rather make standard VCDs and SVCDs, so they can play them years from now on standalones. And they say KVCD, because are non-standard, can't be guaranteed to play on future players. My answer to that has always been simple: I rather encode KVCD (higher quality that VCDs or SVCDs) and in the future, I'll test my KVCD collection on a player that plays them, and buy that one. Not the other way around ;) Quote:
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But hard habits are hard to kick, and some people just don't want to believe it :hihi: -kwag |
Actually Kwaq the site you have an idea of probably isn't the site that it is.I can tell you that it is an ex member of that site and another one called fasttrack but now he has his own site.Initials KJ.I'm sure you know by now who I speak of.
All I can say is that i'm freaking impressed and will stick with it.Plus the next time I buy a DVD player I'll check out the compatability list here and just pick up one that is on here.I saw a philips in wal-mart,think it was a 723(something).I think it does most templates and was on sale for $169 Canadian.Pretty good price. |
i don't want to confuse Fistandantilus in any way, but weren't we encoding at MIN 0.57*avg_in_moviestacker and MAX 2000 bitrate? just a detail probably :roll:
kvcd's are simply the best, but seems to me they are very 'detail-dependant'. like what script to use, bitrates, all kinds of settings and the latest i hadn't a clue about before: divx decoder settings :oops: it's almost as if this is a PRO-format. let the newbs have their svcd's :wink: |
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