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Bombero0437 01-06-2004 08:36 AM

KVCD: 120 minute CD-R does not play?
 
I have had this problem for a while and asked for help before. I have an apex660AD, plays skvcd @ 480x480/576, 544x480/576 perfectly as long as they are not 1 min more than 120min. If so the movie will start in the middle of the film, I have tried to cut in 2 parts and burn onto same disc, (no good), this happens if it is DVD or AVI source, does not matter, I have same problem on other peoples players, I have been doing KVCD for 2 years now, when i ran into this problem before and could not get help i just split into 2 cdr's, but i want to get the whole thing on 1 disc, Oh, by the way mpeg1 does not work on my player at these resolutions.

any help or solutions please


thanx Bombero

Dialhot 01-06-2004 08:44 AM

What is "no good" in the solution of cutting the mpeg in two parts and burning them on the same disc ? That does not work either ? Or is there any other problem that occurs ?

(note : normally the limit in SVCD in 100 minutes. So you have 20 more than the standard allows :-))

Bombero0437 01-06-2004 08:58 AM

by no good , i mean that when i cut it into 2 parts and try to burn it, it will not burn because it will not fit on one disc with nero or vcd easy. i dont know why, maybe because with each file it adds something, and i was already maxed out on size with the single file....

also understood that i already get an extra 20 min on svcd, but i hear tell that others here have done it with no problems and want to get in on the action.... :-)

Dialhot 01-06-2004 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bombero0437
by no good , i mean that when i cut it into 2 parts and try to burn it, it will not burn because it will not fit on one disc with nero or vcd easy. i dont know why, maybe because with each file it adds something, and i was already maxed out on size with the single file....

How did you cut the file ? If you do with TMPGENC you must choose "Super VidepCD" as output format before launching the operation.

I do a lot of KVCD with 6 tracks each (6 TV show episodes) and the total is more or less the sum of all the track sizes. And this is the normal situation as you guessed :-)

Quote:

also understood that i already get an extra 20 min on svcd, but i hear tell that others here have done it with no problems and want to get in on the action.... :-)
Yes. Fortunally a lot of standalones don't care about the standard :-)

Bombero0437 01-06-2004 11:08 AM

i did use tmpgenc as the cutter, but do not recall if i set it to Super Video CD for out put. I am encoding a movie now that is 129min now and i will try that on it. I hope that works, uill let you know the outcome......thanx

Bombero0437 01-09-2004 08:46 PM

to dialhot:


i have not finished that movie i was working on, as i put it on hold....for a few more days, i am working on others at the same time (im sure most of us do) this) i will get back with you in a few days to let you know if the method you gave me works for me...

thanx for your patience..


bombero

Abond 01-10-2004 12:56 PM

I have the same problem with my DVD player and there are two ways for workaround.
1. Mux as non-standart VCD.
2. If the first option is not appropriate, when the movie start from the middle press on the remote "Go To" and type 00:00 - the movie will start from the beggining...

mcglvr 05-08-2004 06:48 AM

I had the same problem :

I've solve the problem by creating the CD image as HQVCD.

Code:

vcdimager -t hqvcd -l "My film" myfilm.mpg
Image size : 352x288 (pal) (MPEG2 vbr KVCD matrix)

My dvd player tell me that it's CVD and starts at the beginning.
HQVCD seems to be as VCD but with MPEG2 video stream.

I've done successfully 2H46M video (manga) on 1 CD.

480x576(pal) does not work. (Perhaps 352x576 should work since it's in CVD specs)

MCGLVR

Encoder Master 05-08-2004 07:16 AM

Quote:

(note : normally the limit in SVCD in 100 minutes. So you have 20 more than the standard allows )
@DialHot

The standart isn't 100minutes. It's 120 min.

Dialhot 05-08-2004 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Encoder Master
The standart isn't 100minutes. It's 120 min.

No. 100 minute, no more.

See the warning in vcdeasy when you do a SVCD with more than 100 minute.

Encoder Master 05-08-2004 11:00 AM

Is there a site where I can find the specification of a SVCD?

Because I've some SVCD calculator tools and the timer goes till 120min and no more.

jorel 05-08-2004 11:17 AM

svcd from tmpgenc wizard:

cbr or vbr standard format , 50 minutes for 650mb.
vbr (out of standard), 110 minutes for 650mb.

Encoder Master 05-08-2004 11:24 AM

Ok one way but not official. :wink:

Dialhot 05-08-2004 12:02 PM

These are the official technical spec from Philips but I didn't see any time length limit.

http://www.licensing.philips.com/inf...uments575.html

mcglvr 05-29-2004 01:26 AM

121 mins with near full D1 resolution on 1 80min CD
 
I've done a high quality video with KVCD matrix.

MPEG2 VBR Stream
Res: 704x576 :o

Encode with mencoder (2pass) under Linux.
Image with vcdimager as HQVCD.
Burn with CDR DAO.

When you play the video it's as good as DVD !! 8O

Dialhot 05-29-2004 10:08 AM

Re: 121 mins with near full D1 resolution on 1 80min CD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcglvr
When you play the video it's as good as DVD !! 8O

That is the goal of all our work here :-)


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