CQmatic
Hi all,
:cry: No matter what I do CQmatic is making my video files to large :!: The finished video if muxed with my sound file will never fir on a 80min cd. Do I need to change the bitrates upper and lower in TMPGEnc after CQmatic gives me it's final CQ or does CQmatic take care of that automatically like for the CQ? I'm beginning to get the feeling that CQmatic just won't accuratly get the video files size right. Anyone else been able to figure this thing out so it will work properly? nighthawk |
^^ first, a bit more information about settings, final file size etc. would be great :lol:
but, i have noticed this, too. All my encodes were approx. 50mb too big. I did a little search in the forums here and found out that it is recommended to set the min bitrate in your project to 0.57xAvg.Bit. Tried this and really, my encode went down by 3, maybe this helps. btw @all the experts here :wink: : is there a workaround for this? since such a high min bitrate wastes a lot of space! |
Hi Nighthawk ,i was having the same problems but like Crackhead said
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Here is the script right out of moviestacker :D
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\MPEG2Dec.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\GripFit_preview.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\BlockBuster.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\UnFilter.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\LegalClip.dll") Mpeg2Source("F:\The Movie\movie.d2v") LegalClip() GripCrop(352, 240, overscan=1) GripSize(resizer="BilinearResize") UnFilter(50, 50) TemporalSmoother(1, 2) MergeChroma(blur(1.58)) MergeLuma(blur(0.2)) BlockBuster(method="noise", detail_max=7, seed=1) GripBorders() LegalClip() The rest of the story: Audio is 128 and the file size is 126mb from HeadAC3he Calcmatic give me this Source is 138min & 15sec Audio is 128 bitrate 1 stream number of disks is 1 80min Average bitrate is 662.1 & ".57" average is 377.4 Video size is 686480 Audio size is 132720 I then loade my script into TMPGEnc loaded the proper KVCD template which is the NTSC LBR 180min Made sure that the source range is unchecked and the numbers were 0 & -1 Saved the project as a TMPGEnc text file I then loaded the text file into CQmatic with the movie length 138 and the average bitrate of 662. Ran perdiction only and my final CQ was 82.85 when encoded the files size came way larger than the predicted size in calcmatic. So much in fact that when muxed with the audio it was right around 860mb I am completly stumped as to where the problem is or how to fix it. I also would get these same problems with manual prediction. :x I should mention that I'm using Smartripper DVD2AVI 1.76 HeadAC3he and Moviestacker. TMPGEnc is version 2.521.58.169 which I think is the latest version right now. Also when using DVD2AVI is set it to force film. ANY HELP ON THIS WOULD BE GREAT AS IT'S DRIVING ME NUTS!! 8O |
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You will get better results using the MA script here, only using MovieStacker to give you the correct GripCrop line :wink: An alternative to this script is to remove the asharp line and change the resizer to "LanczosResize", to produce a sharper picture. :) Try that and see what happens to your file size. |
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In x1 mode, CQMAtic takes a 2 min sample whatever the source length. The longer is the source, the worst is the accuracy. In x3 the sample is 6 minutes long. |
Is there a guide for using the scripts? I've been following a couple of different guides here and both call for loading the script out of Moviestacker into TMPGEnc. I'm not at all familiar with the MA script or even how to use it :cry:
I will try perdiction x3 and see if that's better. nighthawk |
There is no guide. There is the avisynth manual that explain how avisynth works and there is this :
http://www.avisynth.org/index.php?page=YourFirstScript |
Is there anything wrong with using the script right out of moviestacker? I went to the avisysnth site and I really very much fell like a complete noob. Not that eventually I couldn't learn it but when reading some of the threads here about different dll's to be installed and different scripts and filters and such. It's very hard to know just where to start the process.
Before I learned of KVCD there was only VCD for me. In which I used the internal filters of TMPGEnc with good results. Maybe not the best by some of the pro's standards here. But it was enough for me to do what I wanted to do. Are there more exact perdiciton methods for the scripts right out of moviestacker? nighthawk |
Hi nighthawk,
The thing is that when you use Moviestacker to create your script it will make up a script for avisynth 2.0x which is now out of business. Nowadays we use avisynth 2.53 with Kwags MA script. If you press the search button for MA script you will find the latest build for avisynth 2.5x. Use it because it will optimize your movies compression. You just have to adapt it a bit like the path of your d2v file or the resolution you prefer. But don't get rid of Moviestacker or FitCD as from times to times they are very helpfull. And don't worry about feeling like a complete noob. We all feel like that once in a while. Like me: I've been using avisynth for months and I only realized I can stop using the "LoadPlugin()" lines about 2 or 3 weeks ago... |
I found the latest MA script as a sticky thread under Scripts.
However I am not completly sure how to use it.? From the looks of the Script there are certain dll's needed and filters. Where would I find those dll's and the filters? And how to install them. I've gotten use to Moviestacker preloading the dll's and appling the proper filters. When I'm looking at the Script I see that I have to specify my own gripcrop parameters. Is this script used with moviestacker? Wow am I lost :!: |
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Good luck, -d&c |
O.k I think I'm on the right trail now and thanks :!: :D
I'm confused about the Linear motion adaptive filtering and how to set that up. Also the line right under GripBorders that refers to letterbox do I need to do anything there? As well as the last line that refers to function do I do anything there or just leave as is? nighthawk |
O.K I've got everything downloaded and the ninstalled into the plugins folder of avisynth however I keep getting the error unable to load MPEG2Dec3.dll and I have that installed into the plugins folder of avisynth.
Did I install this into a wrong area? |
one quick note the avisynth version is 2.53.
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What is the exact and complete text of the error, and you script ?
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Hi nighthawk,
Go to Donald Graft's site http://neuron2.net/ and search for decodefix or just download http://neuron2.net/fixd2v/decodefix100.zip. That's DG's bundle that comes with a fixed DVD2AVI 1.77.3 and a fixed Mpeg2Dec3.dll. The fix applies for source frame loss under some circumstances. Extract the zipfile and copy the Mpeg2Dec3.dll to your avisynth plugins folder which would probably be c:\program files\avisynth\plugins Now try your script with VDubMod again. PS-Maybe you would be better off with DG's DVD2AVI for the future. Just remember to save your projects in 1.76 mode :wink: |
rds_correia, you are giving the advice to take this version to everyone even if their problem isn't tied to what is fixed in this version. It's very confusing for a newbie !
I DO NOT USE THIS VERSION and never had the slightest problem. This package comes with a new DVD2AVI intoducing new problems (as you said, you have to think about the save format else all will screw up - btw this new DVD2AVI MUST be used when you have the new dll. That's not a matter of choice, and there is no "may be"), a new MPEG2DEC3 dll (that does not even have the same name !) and you must remove the dll that every script here refer (the original mpeg2dec3.dll) because if you forget that, again everything is screwed up. And all that for what ? Because under some circumtances, old dll loses ONE frame ! Please, think twice before talking this dll. Just my 2 cents (and no offence) |
I'm using the MA script now and each time I try to load it into TMPGEnc I'm getting this error message in TMPGEnc.
"LoadPlugin: unable to load "C:\Filters25\MPEG2Dec3.dll"" |
I do have that DLL in the plugin folder of avisynth 2.53
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