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khusru 02-24-2004 04:11 AM

DVD Constant bitrate or CQ?
 
iv got a file thats just under 3 hours, now i wana convert to dvd to the best quality possible.

1. should i use a standard dvd temptlate and use Cq or Cbitrate?

2. Use a KDVD template and max out the cq so the file fits the dvd

3. which will give me overall better quality KDVD or dvd

at max quality i can onle fit 2 hours using the standard template, and usinf c bitratet he quality gets quite blockky in the fast moving stuff so i thought maybe CQ? but if i use the dvd template il get a smaller cq that a kdvd template

khusru 02-24-2004 04:27 AM

3. which will give me overall better quality KDVD or dvd

(for this situation with the 3 hour file)

Dialhot 02-24-2004 04:38 AM

KDVD will always give you better result as the Matrix used is far more efficient.

I don't know what encoder you use but with Vmesquita templates for CCE I do all the time 2-movie KDVD (that is near 3h30) with 2 audio an d1 subtitle each with great quality.

But I guess you ehre talking about TMPGENC. And in this case there is no doubt to have : use CQ !

khusru 02-24-2004 07:20 AM

yeh i use tmpg, so i guess its KDVD with the highest cq possible, thanks again for help

khusru 02-24-2004 08:27 AM

another question dialhot ( i didnt want to start another thread),

On my kvcds i keep getting cq of around 60, these are 100 min movies approx. and im doing the at 528 *576, is this normal? how can i get better cq, im using script

incredible 02-24-2004 09:14 AM

Hi khusru,

first, please use the "Edit" button if you want to add something to your previous postings ... by this it makes it easier for overviewing the thread.

Second, ... Yes, a CQ of 60 at 100min Movies at your res. is in the normal range.

CQs do not only depend on movies length, but also on movies contents and treatments. There are several ways: A good performed Denoising which still keeps details, a good macroblock respecting resizing (borders must be devidable by 16 i.e.), and if really needed a minimal touch of blur to "break" the edges which also rises the CQ.

Example of mine: Matrix reloaded - very easy to compress at 480x576 in avery good quality cause of much dark in the movie, I was able to put that movie on oneCDr80 including 2 audio streams
A con Example was "Message in a Bottle" - very hard to compress! Cause of much uneasy water scenes = much bitrate!

Dialhot 02-24-2004 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible
Second, ... Yes, a CQ of 60 at 100min Movies at your res. is in the normal range.

Normal but that can be increase except if the source is full screen.
As he always have such value, I suggest him to review his settings and his script.
For 100min with 544*576 I'm commonly around 70.

khusru 02-24-2004 01:21 PM

thanks for the help again guys. iv been encoding with borders ( so not full screen) and my script is the latest one from the avi convsion forum, so must be the settings or something. il check them up, not doing any encoding till the weekend now, so il leave it at that

Lagoon 02-24-2004 02:06 PM

I guess the low CQ is because you start with an AVI


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