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FFMPEG: built-in libavcodec/libavformat CODECS

Well, not yet :lol:
But I started to play with some ideas today :cool: ;)

http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i...2004/04/23.jpg

Highlights: With built-in libavcodec/libavformat CODECS (Not a front end GUI!)

But

don't hold your breath :!:

-kwag

:twisted:
I'm not (holding my breath) but I'd like to make one thing clear.
What do you mean by "Not a front end GUI!" ?
You mean that's a new frankencoder project?
Based on libavcodec?
Why didn't you thought about that before :D
Cheers

Hey Karl, that's a great! :D I am curious! 8)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rds_correia

:twisted:
I'm not (holding my breath) but I'd like to make one thing clear.
What do you mean by "Not a front end GUI!" ?

Because the libraries would be compiled/linked in, so the program will actualy be making API calls, directly controlling the process.
QuEnc does something similar.
Not sending command line arguments to mencoder.exe :)

Quote:

You mean that's a new frankencoder project?

Probably better :D

Quote:

Based on libavcodec?

Yep :!:

Quote:

Why didn't you thought about that before :D
Cheers

I did, but things were not stable at the time, and ffmpeg and CODECs were crap at the time :lol:

-kwag

Quote:

Originally Posted by vmesquita

I am curious! 8)

I'm curious if it's going to work at all :lol:
At least the interface works, but that's just a toy right now :hihi:

-kwag

I know you said not to, but I may have to hold my breath for such a wonderful toy!

I wish I could do something but I am not a programmer. Such a tool would be fantastic!

All the best from me.

@Kwag,

I believe the time has come :) With a stable encoder, as MEncoder,
and with Notch-Matrix, avs MA script, and KVCD Templates, this
would be interesting. If the encoder you use has better file size
prediction than Tmpgenc, I say YIPEEEEE!! :D It's about time
the best of KVCD's achievements were put into one fabulous
program 8)

-BP

Quote:

Originally Posted by black prince

I say YIPEEEEE!! :D It's about time
the best of KVCD's achievements were put into one fabulous program 8)

And I second that!!!
:ole:

Quote:

Originally Posted by black prince

It's about time
the best of KVCD's achievements were put into one fabulous
program 8)

Well, the best of KVCD (the "Notch" matrix plus some other things) are already being applied in commercial applications, specially low bitrate video streaming and surveillance, but I'm not allowed to disclose any information (yet!) :) ( For all the KVCD detractors out there on the "other" site, who said that KVCD was nothing more than a XVCD, I'll have news for them :) )
We already proved that on extremely low bitrate applications ( ~80Kbps) KVCD MPEG-1 is just as good as MPEG-4, without the CPU requirements of MPEG-4, and not to mention that MPEG-1 decoders are just about everywhere! Not so for MPEG-4 ;)
And we also know what we can do with KVCD stuff applied to MPEG-2 (KDVD), but on that end, there's still not much commercial activity. It's just a matter of a little more time ;)

-kwag

Re: Today, I said: What the hell ......

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

But

don't hold your breath :!:

I'm already red :oops: :hihi:
Looks promising. I haven't had the time lately to follow the mencoder threads so this would be a time saving tool for me. Please let me/us know if i/we can help somehow.

Krassi

:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: NICE!

kwag,
it would be great :!:
If you really begin to cook this... we could open a thread with suggestions or ideas to incorporate in this program... (even you can finish with some thillions of ideas :lol: )
Well, not today if you want, but tomorrow I'll begin to hold the breath :wink:

FINALY :!:
I didn't think that you ever will do THIS but it seams that time is bigest tresure of all :twisted: :mrgreen:

I'll check this after I feed the dog and right before I feed the cat :lol: Joking :P Great tool (I gues :roll: ) :wink:

WOW 8O :D !
This sounds great kwag! And congratulations on the surveillance thing! So, when do we get to see this beast of a program? I'm starting to turn :arrow: :confused: . From lack of oxygen! :wink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by audioslave

So, when do we get to see this beast of a program?

I don't know yet ;)

Quote:

I'm starting to turn :arrow: :confused: . From lack of oxygen! :wink:

:mrgreen:

-kwag

Hello Kwag:

It sounds that this is what I was waiting for.........I can not afford to hold my breath for long periods of time, but with some CPR resusitation techniques, particularly with god looking female nurses, I may be able to wait............. as a matter of fact, using this resusitation method, I can wait for a looonng time. :D

Best regards to you

Totonho03

Thanks for your work. Nice and great!.
:lol:

-Maurus

Karl...

... it was 3 loooong days ago.
And I see lots of blue faces waiting :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Originally Posted by digitall.doc

Karl...

... it was 3 loooong days ago.
And I see lots of blue faces waiting :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well, they'll probably now turn purple, because they'll have to wait longer :mrgreen:
I'm too busy with other things, and yesterday I was updating DIKumciser.
So your best bet is to go with vmesquita's "Mencoder ME", as it's far ahead of my program :)
Who knows, if Mencoder ME gets to a point that it's very useable, is there really a need for another GUI :?:
After all, they all use the same internal libraries, so there won't be really any quality advantage from one over the other.
Anyway, I still have some ideas that I woould like to test, but the way I see it, it's going to take some time.

Don't you guys have enough toys to play with already :?: :twisted: :lol: :lol:

-kwag

@Kwag,

Kwag wrote:

Quote:

Don't you guys have enough toys to play with already

-kwag

No!! :roll: :mrgreen:

This is fun improving KVCD processes and even thought most
of it I still don't understand, the parts that I do are real learning
experiences. MEncoderME is getting there and with your inputs
it's going to be ready for the Newbe masses. I'd like to see
an intergrated bitrate calculator (very useful) like CalcuMatic.
I just wondering whether an avs MA script should be incorporated
or not. An "Optimal Conf" sticky would be nice just as in forum KVCD.
And last, and probably the easiest thing to do is System Shut Down
incorporated in GUI. I am happy vmesquita and you are working
on this and excited with the results so far. :D

-BP

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

So your best bet is to go with vmesquita's "Mencoder ME", as it's far ahead of my program :)
Who knows, if Mencoder ME gets to a point that it's very useable, is there really a need for another GUI :?:

I know you're all very busy. I even feel guilty to ask for things I cannot help with. I just can test :roll:
But I didn't think you were talking about a GUI, but a different approach, integrating libavcodec libraries, and maybe (even you didn't say a thing like this) avisynth support.
Well, I'll just sit down and wait, while I keep testing very nice vmesquita GUI

Which IDE are you using?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Latexxx

Which IDE are you using?

Something that blows away every current C compiler in existence :mrgreen:
The power of assembly (machine) language, with the syntax of BASIC.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/error.gif
http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/error.gif
http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/error.gif
http://www.purebasic.com/screenshots.php3 ;)
http://www.purebasic.com/index.php3

Now you all know my little secret :lol:

Moral of the story:
Use the right tool for the right job.
Never use a bulldozer (C) to trim your lawn, and never use a pair of scissors (VB) to cut large trees :rotf:

Note: This environment is not for newbies :!:
You must have some programming experience to work with it.
If you want something easier to work with, go look at Delphi or Visual Basic or some other RAD tools.
This system is still relatively new, and every new version breaks some compatibility with previous sources.
However, if you want the full Win32 API and assembly power, controlled by an easy "BASIC" like syntax, then you'll be pleased with this.
And you can target your applications with a simple compile to Windows, Linux and AmigaOS :)

BTW, I still use the bulldozer (C), but *ONLY* when needed ;)

-kwag

Well, I wouldn't go back to any form of Basic even if somebody tried to force me to do so. 8) Lets say that I've used Basic and I've used Object Pascal (Delphi) and if it would be up to me I would use either. Java and C# are the languages. Unfortunately they both do require bloated virtual machine which kill my Pentium III 500 MHz.

- I don't like basic anymore because I know other programming languages (I was a Qbasic junkie).
- The code doesn't look very elegant and isn't very easy to understand because of its structure.
- Braces are easier to perceive.

eg

C#:

Code:

namespace Microsoft.Samples.WinForms.Cs.SimpleHelloWorld {

    using System;

    using System.Windows.Forms;



    public class SimpleHelloWorld : Form {



        [STAThread]

        public static int Main(string[] args) {

            Application.Run(new SimpleHelloWorld());

            return 0;

        }



        public SimpleHelloWorld() {

            this.Text = "Hello World";

        }

    }

}

VB.net:

Code:

Imports System

Imports System.ComponentModel

Imports System.Drawing

Imports System.Windows.Forms



Namespace Microsoft.Samples.WinForms.VB.SimpleHelloWorld



    Public Class SimpleHelloWorld

        Inherits System.Windows.Forms.Form



        'Run the application

        <STAThread()> Shared Sub Main()

            System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(New SimpleHelloWorld())

        End Sub



        Public Sub New()

            MyBase.New()

            Me.Text = "Hello World"

        End Sub

    End Class



End Namespace

End Sub/Namespace: just stupid

But its your choiche, not mine. Get your program ready![/list]

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

Something that blows away every current C compiler in existence :mrgreen:
The power of assembly (machine) language, with the syntax of BASIC.

Do you know what kind of limitations has the demo version?

Now we're off topic, but here it goes :lol:
(Please reply or comment on the programming languages threads, for further discussions )

Quote:

Originally Posted by Latexxx

C#:

Code:

namespace Microsoft.Samples.WinForms.Cs.SimpleHelloWorld {

    using System;

    using System.Windows.Forms;



    public class SimpleHelloWorld : Form {



        [STAThread]

        public static int Main(string[] args) {

            Application.Run(new SimpleHelloWorld());

            return 0;

        }



        public SimpleHelloWorld() {

            this.Text = "Hello World";

        }

    }

}

VB.net:

Code:

Imports System

Imports System.ComponentModel

Imports System.Drawing

Imports System.Windows.Forms



Namespace Microsoft.Samples.WinForms.VB.SimpleHelloWorld



    Public Class SimpleHelloWorld

        Inherits System.Windows.Forms.Form



        'Run the application

        <STAThread()> Shared Sub Main()

            System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(New SimpleHelloWorld())

        End Sub



        Public Sub New()

            MyBase.New()

            Me.Text = "Hello World"

        End Sub

    End Class



End Namespace

End Sub/Namespace: just stupid

But its your choiche, not mine. Get your program ready![/list]

Yep. It's my choice, and that's exactly why I chose PureBasic for most of the programming I do now.
Unless I have to do a device driver, then I'll do it in C ( which is what C was designed to do. Low level stuff)
Sadly, the industry chose C/C++ for high level applications, which is probably the biggest mistake :!:

If anyone looks closely, those samples only print "Hello World".
Well, this is what I call elegant :!: What follows is the complete source for a complete small web browser

Code:

; ------------------------------------------------------------

;

;   PureBasic - MiniBrowser

;

;    (c) 2002 - Fantaisie Software

;

; ------------------------------------------------------------

;

; This program requiers the Microsoft freely distribuable 

; ATL.dll shared library.

;



Procedure ResizeWebWindow()

  ResizeGadget(10, -1, -1, WindowWidth(), WindowHeight()-52)

  ResizeGadget(4, -1, -1, WindowWidth()-185, -1)

  ResizeGadget(5, WindowWidth()-25, -1, -1, -1)

  ResizeGadget(6, -1, -1, WindowWidth(), -1)

EndProcedure





Procedure SizeCallback(WindowID, Message, wParam, lParam)



  ReturnValue = #PB_ProcessPureBasicEvents

  

  If Message = #WM_SIZE 

    UpdateStatusBar(0)

    ResizeWebWindow()

    ReturnValue = 1

  EndIf

  

  ProcedureReturn  ReturnValue

EndProcedure





If OpenWindow(0, 100, 100, 500, 300, #PB_Window_MinimizeGadget | #PB_Window_MaximizeGadget | #PB_Window_SizeGadget, "PureBasic MiniBrowser v1.0")



  CreateStatusBar(0, WindowID())

    StatusBarText(0, 0, "Welcome to the world's smallest Browser ! :)", 0)

      

  CreateGadgetList(WindowID())

    ButtonGadget(1,   0, 0, 50, 25, "Back")

    ButtonGadget(2,  50, 0, 50, 25, "Next")

    ButtonGadget(3, 100, 0, 50, 25, "Stop")

  

    StringGadget(4, 155, 5, 0, 20, "http://www.purebasic.com")

    

    ButtonGadget(5, 0, 0, 25, 25, "Go")

    

    Frame3DGadget(6, 0, 30, 0, 2, "", 2) ; Nice little separator

  

    If WebGadget(10, 0, 31, 0, 0, "http://www.purebasic.com") = 0 : MessageRequester("Error", "ATL.dll not found", 0) : End : EndIf

  

  AddKeyboardShortcut(0, #PB_Shortcut_Return, 0)

  

  ResizeWebWindow()

  

  SetWindowCallback(@SizeCallback())

  

  Repeat

    Event = WaitWindowEvent()

    

    Select Event

      Case #PB_Event_Gadget

      

        Select EventGadgetID()

          Case 1

            SetGadgetState(10, #PB_Web_Back)

          

          Case 2

            SetGadgetState(10, #PB_Web_Forward)

          

          Case 3

            SetGadgetState(10, #PB_Web_Stop)

          

          Case 5

            SetGadgetText(10, GetGadgetText(4))

            

        EndSelect      

      

      Case #PB_Event_Menu ; We only have one shortcut

        SetGadgetText(10, GetGadgetText(4))

      

    EndSelect

      

  Until Event = #PB_Event_CloseWindow

   

EndIf

That's what I call elegant ;)
BTW, here's the compiled WebBrowser.exe, weighting at only ~18KB :lol:
http://www.kvcd.net/WebBrowser.exe

Also, here's a link to some of the commercial applications that have been written in PB.
These are VERY expensive applications, so PB is not a toy ( as many see it :!: )
http://www.reelmedia.org/c3/
And look at the prices 8O http://www.reelmedia.org/c3/03.html

So I really think once (not even twice) before coding anything in C/C++ these days :cool:

-kwag

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodater64

Do you know what kind of limitations has the demo version?

I sent you a PM.

-kwag

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodater64

Do you know what kind of limitations has the demo version?

I sent you a PM with descriptions.

-kwag

kwag,
I'm also interested in the info. I'd give it a shot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitall.doc

kwag,
I'm also interested in the info. I'd give it a shot.

It's all here: http://www.purebasic.com/
And the forums are here: http://purebasic.myforums.net/index.php
There's where you'll really appreciate the power of this stuff. Just search around and see the things that have (are) being developed with it :!:

-kwag

I think their ressources site does got an error as it isnt avaiable or cant be shown (Not on Windows neither on Mac)
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/pb/

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible

I think their ressources site does got an error as it isnt avaiable or cant be shown (Not on Windows neither on Mac)
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/pb/

That link works fine from here :!:

-kwag

The Browser tells me "sending request...." and nothing happens.
All other pages-loadings are working fine :?

Go here: www.webwarper.net and try it from there.

-kwag

:oops: I'm choking kwag!
how's the app?

I have also wondered when will be the next day for kwag to say "What the hell..." :D

Well, after seeing vmesquita's MencodeME, I said: "What the hell, why would I do this, if MencodeME is already working, and why the hell would I re-invent the wheel" ;)

-kwag