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Razorblade2000 08-22-2002 01:06 PM

KVCD: Template changes for Late Night Shows?
 
Can someone tell me what I have to cange to get a better result at Late-Night-Shows?
(You know, some guy sitting behind his table making jokes->Not that much need for keyframes/no motion...)


P.S. setting "Soften Blocknoise" to 100 (both times) will give me better Anime encoding results? or not?
:D

kwag 08-22-2002 02:49 PM

Re: Template changes for Late-Night-Shows???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Razorblade2000
Can someone tell me what I have to cange to get a better result at Late-Night-Shows?
(You know, some guy sitting behind his table making jokes->Not that much need for keyframes/no motion...)


P.S. setting "Soften Blocknoise" to 100 (both times) will give me better Anime encoding results? or not?
:D

Setting soften blocks to 100 will give you worse results. This function is inverted. 0=less blocks. Greater number = more visible blocks. This has been discussed here before.

-kwag

Razorblade2000 08-22-2002 03:21 PM

Thanks
 
Wow...fine!

rendalunit 08-22-2002 03:42 PM

Unfortunately, there are no settings to improve the quality of the jokes :lol:

Kwag,

Is it possible to use the flaXen VHS filter with AviSynth? I think I used VDub in conjunction with avisynth one time but I don't remember how I did it.

kwag 08-22-2002 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rendalunit
Unfortunately, there are no settings to improve the quality of the jokes :lol:

Kwag,

Is it possible to use the flaXen VHS filter with AviSynth? I think I used VDub in conjunction with avisynth one time but I don't remember how I did it.

Not sure if you can use flaxen directly in a AviSynth script. What you can do is just open your .avs with Vdub, and then setup the flaxen filters, and frameserve to TMPEG via Vdub. That will work for sure.

-kwag

rendalunit 08-22-2002 05:06 PM

Yes, I think that's how I did it before. For some reason now I'm getting the error "can not open or unsupported". I think I don't have some dlls loaded or something.

Razorblade2000 08-23-2002 06:42 AM

no VHS
 
I recorded it via Mjpeg! It isn`t a VHS Rip! :roll:

Mario 08-23-2002 07:04 AM

Hi. I use flaxen with with avisynth regularly. You need to download vdub_filters v1.4 (http://sauron.mordor.net/dgraft/vdub_filters_v14.zip) This allows avisynth to interface with various virtualdub plugins.

My script is usually as follows: or something similar)

LoadPlugin("C:\Avisynth\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Avisynth\MJPEGcorrect.dll") 'I use Picvideo MJPEG
LoadPlugin("C:\Avisynth\decomb.dll")
Import("C:\Avisynth\vdfilters.avs")
AVISource("F:\Films\Capture.avi")
MJPEGcorrect()
Telecide(reverse=false, swap=false, firstlast=false, post=true, threshold=15, dthreshold=9, blend=true, chroma=false, y0=450, y1=510)
BilinearResize(320,254,0,9,352,558)
TemporalSmoother(2,2)
ConvertToRGB()
VD_VHS()
ConvertToYUY2
#AddBorders(48,16,48,16)


Hope it works for you.

rendalunit 08-23-2002 08:30 AM

wow thanx Frank,

this is excellent info--

I'm gonna modify your script a little and try it out :wink:

-ren

rendalunit 08-23-2002 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mario
Hi. I use flaxen with with avisynth regularly. You need to download vdub_filters v1.4 (http://sauron.mordor.net/dgraft/vdub_filters_v14.zip) This allows avisynth to interface with various virtualdub plugins.

It's working great! Not only can you use the vhs filter with AviSynth but also a whole bunch of other cool VDub filters!

hey, are the empty parens after VD_VHS() the default settings for this filter?

thanks a lot,
ren

kwag 08-23-2002 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rendalunit
hey, are the empty parens after VD_VHS() the default settings for this filter?

thanks a lot,
ren

That's what I was going to ask! Isn't it easier to use Vdub as a transparent processor, and change the filters and parameters in Vdub?
Because using the filters in a AviSynth script, if you need to make changes, you have to re-edit the script. In Vdub, you can interactively change any filter parameters. Plus you get the added bonus of previewing the output window dynamically, and you can see the filter effects immediately. 8O

-kwag

Mario 08-23-2002 12:52 PM

Yes I would prefer to use virtualdub, but frameserving takes a hell of a long time even with an AMD 2 gig processor (like 10 12 hours!)

kwag 08-23-2002 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mario
Yes I would prefer to use virtualdub, but frameserving takes a hell of a long time even with an AMD 2 gig processor (like 10 12 hours!)

WOW! something's wrong there Frank!, because I have a P4 @1.6Ghz, and my frameserving is about the same when frameserving with Vdub, or processing an AviSynth script directy with TMPEG 8O

-kwag

rendalunit 08-23-2002 02:08 PM

I'm encoding a 2 hr vhs ->352x480 with avisynth script:

LoadPlugin("D:\Encoding\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\Encoding\decomb.dll")
Import("D:\Program Files\video tools\VirtualDub\Plugins\vdub_filters.avs")
AVISource("D:\Capture.avi")
FieldDeinterlace()
TemporalSmoother(2,2)
ConvertToRGB32()
VD_VHS()
ConvertToYUY2()

encoding time- 11 hours

with bob() instead of fielddeinterlace() encoding time- 20 hours!! 8O

Mario 08-24-2002 04:09 AM

Thanks Kwag. I'm must be doing something wrong! Perhaps I need to play about with vdub setting.

Ren, what did the result look like? I was interested to see that you encoded to 352x480, what did you capture at (sorry, I'm going well off topic now!)

rendalunit 08-24-2002 12:22 PM

I captured at 29.97 fps. It looks pretty good considering that the source is recorded in EP mode. The encoding still took forever though so I'll probably just frameserve with VDub (plus like kwag said it's easier to change the filter parameters). Crop and hue adjustments are way easier in VDub!

Razorblade2000 12-01-2002 06:13 AM

Anything new?
 
In the last month many new templates were released and many filters occured, anything that could help compressing theese late-night shows???

Or maybe changing the GOP or Matrix???


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