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audioslave 05-26-2004 01:09 AM

@fabrice

I'm on it :wink: !

audioslave 05-26-2004 01:53 AM

I've finished the test. I used 8000 for max bitrate and 300 for min bitrate (in TMPGEnc) and I can't really see any difference between the two encodings...

BUT - The encoding time was VERY different :!: . In the time TMPGEnc took to encode I could probably have done about 1/3 of the whole movie with PackShot (MEncoder) :lol: ! And the sample was only about 2 minutes long :wink: .

trigger911 06-01-2004 02:04 AM

wow sounds great im thinkin bout buying it
thanx for all the info guys keep up the good work :P
-trigger911

rmax 06-01-2004 05:46 AM

i have no readavs plugin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fabrice
To be able to read avs file, you have to activate readavs plugin in Option/Preferences/Input plugin settings. If it don't appear, just install readavs plugin.

i have no any "readavs plugin" after installatuin of XPress. I found no "readavs plugin" at TMPGenc site (http://www.pegasys-inc.com/)
There i can get it?

The directory contains only such files: DShowReader.vfp DShowReaderCD.vfp DShowReaderLD.vfp DShowReaderMD.vfp DShowReaderSD.vfp AAEmp2.vme AAEResample.vme NoiseReduction.vme Qt.vme Resize.vme VFAPI.vme wm9.vme
Is "readavs plugin" one of it? So how to force activate it?

Dialhot 06-01-2004 06:29 AM

Re: i have no readavs plugin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rmax
i have no any "readavs plugin" after installatuin of XPress. I found no "readavs plugin" at TMPGenc site (http://www.pegasys-inc.com/)
There i can get it?

http://www.avisynth.org/warpenterprises/
See bottom of the page.

rmax 06-01-2004 07:36 AM

Thank you very much!!!
 
Thank you very much!!!
Now i can test Xpress too!!!

jorel 06-02-2004 07:15 PM

only yesterday i install the new tmpgenc.
when i (try to) run the prog i got:
read error ocour....'lameacm.acm'...bla bla bla.
and the program close... 8O
then i change the lameacm.acm for another but got the same error.
what i do please? :?
help me.

Dialhot 06-02-2004 07:21 PM

use mencoder ? :roll: :-)

jorel 06-02-2004 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
use mencoder ? :roll: :-)

this is my dream Phil but MencoderMe,DIKO and PackShot are not working on my system..i'm installing XP over 2K to see "what happen".

Koekies 06-03-2004 03:04 AM

I think pegasys built in some avisynth filters. Or something like that you can specify which parts of the movie to filer more with the ghost reduction filter :) I'm gonna see if this really makes better skvcds than mencoder does I don't think that is possible because 2,58 came nowhere near.

EDIT: It's alot slower than mencoder

I made a jpeg and tried to use the same frames but the avi mencoder and tmpegenc al had different frames (tmpegenc directly encodes your audio and muxes your movie but it doesn't playback correct on my computer :? ) the tekst on the jpg is dutch the one on the top is the source in the middle tmpegenc3 and the one on the bottom mencoder
http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i.../2004/06/1.jpg

so the tmpegencode time is 18:54 with muxing and audio encoding and the 9:14 mencoder encode is not with audio encoding and muxing

Koekies 06-03-2004 04:45 AM

I demuxed the tmpegenc3 sample muxed it with mplex and now it works perfectly :)

Dialhot 06-03-2004 04:56 AM

I don't know how you did your samples but you should change that : you are losing all details ;-)

Koekies 06-03-2004 05:23 AM

its an xvid source it just can't give the same quality as dvd source. The tmpegenc3 sample was without filters :) The bitrates aren't that high either but still to high for a ksvcd

Dialhot 06-03-2004 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koekies
its an xvid source it just can't give the same quality as dvd source. The tmpegenc3 sample was without filters :) The bitrates aren't that high either but still to high for a ksvcd

Without any filters, not even internals ?
The fact that the source is an xvid doesn't matter ! I'm not talking about non existant details but about lost details during the compression. The lost is the same whatever the source you have. For sure, the less you have details in the source, the less you will have in the target (that's logical) but here you HAVE details in the source and you don4t have them anymore after that.

I'm damn sure that my v4 script won't lose that much details with tmpeg 2.520. Can you try it, just to compare ?

Koekies 06-03-2004 07:38 PM

I'll try that tomorrow. But mpeg2 never gave me good results at that bitrate :P

Koekies 06-05-2004 05:13 AM

Oke I was wrong :oops: But mencoder still gives the best quality
Tmpegenc 2,5 with dialhots v4 script.
http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i.../2004/06/2.jpg

Dialhot 06-05-2004 10:14 AM

Let imagine what can be done with mencoder AND my script ;-)

Koekies 06-05-2004 11:22 AM

Is it good on DVD source aswel? Im testing with kwags new script now and its fast :)

Dialhot 06-05-2004 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koekies
Is it good on DVD source aswel? Im testing with kwags new script now and its fast :)

For DVD it's better to use this one. Mine is more for over compressed sources like Divx.

Koekies 06-05-2004 01:50 PM

Well thanks I'll use it next time I encode an xvid :)

WOWIEGURL 07-06-2004 08:17 AM

HELP!! I've bought the tmpgenc exp 3.0,registered,downloaded the retail version, installed the setup launcher, restarted my computer but don't know where to find the tmgpenc 3.0 Express icon. Usually it tells you where the file is going to be installed, but this time it didn't so I don't know what to do. Please help!!!

Boulder 07-06-2004 08:23 AM

In the normal place, Start->Programs->TMPGEnc?

Dialhot 07-06-2004 08:24 AM

Can't you just go in you "C:\programm files" directory and sort the entry by date. Look at the folder created or modified today (or when you installed the soft) :?:

How do you live when we are asleep ?

WOWIEGURL 07-06-2004 08:30 AM

well I tried looking for the file under the name TMPGENC 3.0 in my C:\ it wasn't there, and with tpgemc 2.5 I had a little shortcut on my desktop. I didn't realise it installs itself on my start menu. It didn't say anything about being installed there

Dialhot 07-06-2004 08:46 AM

Does your mum know you are using the PC when she's out ?
Seriously, how old are you wowie ?

We are here to HELP people to do KVCD (and that's a pleasure to do that), not to ASSIST them to live :?

WOWIEGURL 08-06-2004 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fabrice
Hi audio slave,

Yes, there is an easy way; Just import this file in Set output tab, Custom Matrix editor/Open button.

Cu
Fabrice

THe link doesn't seem to be working. Does it have the kvcd PAL template for 120 mins?

Bleeder 08-24-2004 09:59 AM

OK, I tried TMPGenc 3 with XDVD settings for my my mini DV material. Results are very good.

As some of you know, I use your script in TMPGenc 2.5

Quote:

AVISource("D:\New Folder\Faljatov sendvic za Harisa.avi")
KernelDeint(order=0,sharp=true,threshold=5)

ConverttoYV12()

UnDot()
asharp(1, 4)

RemoveDirt()
TemporalSoften(2,3,3,6,2)
I now tried simply chosing XDVD, deinterlacing, average bitrate 2500, lowest 300 and top 6000 and I get simmilar results-really comparable but at about 25-30% smaller file size. Wow.

So guys what do you recommend. How do I include any filters or improve further the results with TMPGenc 3 ?

As mentioned-source is clean mini DV from a digital camcorder.

Boulder 08-24-2004 11:40 AM

There's a new optimised version of KernelDeint here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81322

And UnDot() can be safely replaced by RemoveGrain(mode=2).

http://www.removegrain.de.tf (the page may load very slowly!)

For captures, you might want to try CNR2():

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78905

There's something to play with :wink:

Bleeder 08-24-2004 11:47 AM

OK-how do I use this in TMPGenc 3?
Do I still import the KDVD template?
Do I use scripts like in the TMPGenc 2.5 ?

Thanks.

Boulder 08-24-2004 11:49 AM

Those are just changes in the Avisynth script so you'll have to load it in TMPGEnc, of course. I wouldn't use any of the TMPGEnc filters :wink:

DARcode 09-01-2004 01:47 AM

Do you guys know of any good templates for TMPGEnc 3.0 XPress, I've been able to find this one only:

http://66.102.11.104/search?q=cache:...c+xpress&hl=en

Also, are the TMPGEnc 2.5 templates accessible from the main page ever gonna be "upgraded" to 3.0 Xpress?

Thanks.

Dialhot 09-01-2004 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARcode
Also, are the TMPGEnc 2.5 templates accessible from the main page ever gonna be "upgraded" to 3.0 Xpress?

No.

DARcode 09-01-2004 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
Quote:

Originally Posted by DARcode
Also, are the TMPGEnc 2.5 templates accessible from the main page ever gonna be "upgraded" to 3.0 Xpress?

No.

I'm beginning to dislike you.
Anyone else has got something helpful to say for a change?

Boulder 09-01-2004 01:58 PM

He only answered your question. What's wrong with that? It's highly unlikely that they will ever be updated for 3.0.

rds_correia 09-01-2004 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARcode
I'm beginning to dislike you.

Hi DARcode :),
Don't.
I'm quite sure your feelings towards Phil will change to the opposite in sometime.
You will find that he can really help when you need ;-)
Quote:

Originally Posted by DARcode
Anyone else has got something helpful to say for a change?

Well there's really not much that we can say on this matter, really.
Overall, TmpgX3 seems to be a GUI uplift from it's previous and very successful 2.5xx versions.
If I were you, I'd go back to tmpg 2.5 and use the existing templates.
That is, if I were you, of course.
Cheers

jorel 09-01-2004 07:31 PM

DARcode, welcome in forum! :wink:

Phil is an http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i.../2004/09/1.gif and take care of the whole forum with extreme knowledge and goodness....

and will help you a lot!...trust me, Phil is a joker and sometimes uses "economics and objectives" works in his answers(like..."no") :lol:

DARcode 09-02-2004 01:33 AM

Thanks guys, regarding Dialhot (Phil?) he's already expressed his lack of interest for TMPE 3 XP in the Italian forum, where I tried to help a user he basically brushed off, anyway I'm new here so I might've misinterpreted his intentions and attitude (even though "No" period is a pretty blunt reply), we'll see.

Back to the thread's subject: I still have TMPGE 2.5 installed and I'm still using it, but TMPGE 3 XP is way faster on my machine (with identical, at least to me, results) and it supports the Pegasys AC3 plug-in too.

Is there a newbie forum/subforum in here where I can ask a ton of silly questions, please?

Dialhot 09-02-2004 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARcode
Thanks guys, regarding Dialhot (Phil?) he's already expressed his lack of interest for TMPE 3 XP in the Italian forum

Yes it is. The question was asked in JULY, I answered that this question was already asked on the english forum and the answer was "No, the template won't be updated". That's why my answer was so short yesterday.

As I said also in july on italian forum, all people here have two hands, a brain and the official spec for KVCD. But in all this time no-one ever deliver an updated template. If there is any interest for that, why don't you update the template(s) and simply share it with the community ?

Asking, asking, asking...

Quote:

Is there a newbie forum/subforum in here where I can ask a ton of silly questions, please?
Any forum. After having read a little just to be sure that your silly question wasn't answered two days (or two months ;-)) ago.

DARcode 09-02-2004 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
As I said also in july on italian forum, all people here have two hands, a brain and the official spec for KVCD. But in all this time no-one ever deliver an updated template. If there is any interest for that, why don't you update the template(s) and simply share it with the community ?

Asking, asking, asking...

I'm more than willing to convert the templates myself and contribute to this community, the problem is I'm no video editing expert: I'm a systems engineer, and that means I know fairly well how to have heterogeneous computer systems communicate via several types of hw/sw infrastructures but I know little about applications, so yes I do have two hands and a brain with a decent amount of PC knowledge (I'm familiar with Windows regsitry tweaking and I'm no stranger to command line for example) but I need tons more of info to be able to accomplish my K(S)VCD goals, therefore I'm asking not out of laziness, rather cause we have a few experts here who are very likely to be able to do what would take me days in a matter of hours if not minutes.
I asked the same question both in the Italian forum (actually it was another user) and in this one since I think they're browsed by different users mostly.

Arguing aside, tell me how and I'll convert the templates, let's start with what the .MAT file downloadable from that German page is for and what is its equivalent in the TMPE 2.5 templates (I'm oblivious to the architecture of both), please.
Also, do I need any other tools/applications?

Dialhot 09-02-2004 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARcode
Arguing aside, tell me how and I'll convert the templates, let's start with what the .MAT file downloadable from that German page is for and what is its equivalent in the TMPE 2.5 templates (I'm oblivious to the architecture of both), please.
Also, do I need any other tools/applications?

Unfortunally, if anyone knew how this version works, the templates would have been already updated.
You are the first one that report to have a speed gain by using it. Beside that, all people agree that this version is just a (paying) GUI above the old engine.


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