tmpgenc, menu file, mpeg tools, simple multiplex. Be sure to choose 'mpeg2 supervideo CD' as muxing mode before to click "OK".

Are you sure the audio wasn't there ? How did you checked that ? I never had any problem with this.

If the audio is in the green part of the time line, it will be on the disc. But you have perhaps to check the content of the IFO file after the compile. Go into the 'tools' nemu and you will find a 'edit IFO for audio' or something like this.

Video-ts contains all datas needed on a DVD Video (video + audio + menu).
Audio_ts is used for DVD Audio only.

I played a burned DVD and there was no sound-in standalone or PC.
Also while previewing video at the timeline there's no sound.

In IFO editor it is set to MPEG sound.

Damn it. Confusion again.

I now ran full size video (42 minutes) not 1 min sample through this script and the files are larger than without the script

I tried all 4 modes over night. Source interlaced, rendering as progressive,vice versa and both either interlaced or noninterlaced.

The smallest is the one that has (source interlaced) and rendering in progressive.

What could be wrong?
Why are these files larger than with the previously tried scripts. Not much about 100 MBs but still. Isn't deinterlacing supposed to make them smaller? :(

Could you make a small sample of that clip (unprocessed) available somewhere? Maybe 25 frames from a scene with motion so it'll be easier to investigate.

Can I mail it to you? If so, just email me at kmecka@primorska.com and I'll send it to you.

It would be much better if you take a look at it sinc half the time I don't know what I am doing :lol:

Just to confirm-I sent you the sample to your email-I didn't get any message about bouncing but sometimes emails don't get thfough so if you haven't received it let me know so I resend it...

In the meantime for anyone who knows anything about the following:

When I edit a movie in Pinnacle studio 9 I have choices about which type of
file I want to turn it in.

The main choices are:
mainconcept DV 2.04
DV decompressor
YUV12 format codec
Huffyuv2.11
uncompresses YUY2
uncompressed RGB24
uncompressed UYVY

Which do you recommend for creating KDVDs from them?

Does any of these present a better choice for turning into KDVDs?
I usualy use mainconcept 2.04

After having a quick peek at the sample clip, I really don't know why it should produce a smaller file without the MA script. It's regular pure interlaced video and the MA script should work well for you.

Try this simple script:

AVISource("path\clip.avi")
KernelDeint(order=0,sharp=true,threshold=5)
ConverttoYV12()
UnDot()
Deen()

See if it comes out smaller than the file without any scripts.

The latest version of Deen can be found here:

http://atlas2.tgv.net/~media-video/f...49ef7754b3cb21

OK I am starting rendering now but I will be out today so I might not post results until tomorow. Hope this works well.

You will soon learn to test all solution on a sample project than on the whole video.

We lost since a long time the habit to spent 6 hours to see if blur(0.1) is better than blur(0.2) ;-)

:lol:

Hey, this script made the file smaller and works OK :D

The sample thing-I was also using a 1 minute sample fiorst but then the previous script made a noticably smaller file than others but after I fed it the entire file in the end the results were not god so I decided to put the entire thing in just to make sure :wink:

OK. This script is good (Thanks Boulder). Any potential additional things I should include in it that will make the file even better while not increasing size or even reducing it further?

1) use overscan (resize to 688x544 and add 16-pixel borders on each side)

2) replace Deen() with RemoveDirt().TemporalSoften(2,3,3,6,2) (search the board for the link)

OK:

For 1)
How exactly do I do that? What do I write in the script for that overscan,..?
Also, this is still DVD format right? Fully compatible...?

Read the documents that came with Avisynth 2.5x, they will explain you how to resize and how to add borders.

The result will naturally be DVD-compliant since the resolution won't change, it's still 720x576. The only difference is that you'll have 16-pixel borders on each side of the picture - and no, you won't see them on your TV.

Can't find out the part about the borders. I read about "add borders" in Avisynth manual but I don't get it.

Crop(16, 16, -16, -16) would that be OK?
Do I use Gripcrop for cropping?
Lancos or bicubic?


The removedirt part is easy.

What's wrong with let's say this:
Virtualdub says Gripcrop: Unrecognized destination frame size.

Still haven't figured it out :?

If you use GripCrop, you'll have to use this kind of script:

You could also try GripCrop(704, 576, overscan=2, source_anamorphic=false) instead of GripCrop(720, 576, overscan=2, source_anamorphic=false).

Don't use RemoveDirt().TemporalSoften() with the MA script, you're overfiltering!

EDIT: If you don't want to use the MA script, try this:

Basically I don't know how to crop to 688*544 like you suggested.

I don0t care whether GripCrop or any other thing is used.

I'm trying to follow your suggestion to crop those 16 pixels :)
I just don't know how to do that.

There are the scripts for you, in my previous reply. Use them.

I didn't tell you to crop to 688x544, I told you to resize and add borders.

The GripCrop, GripSize and GripBorders lines do it for you.

Oh. Well OK. :D
Thanks then. I will try both scripts and see which one is better :P

Another question. I have a few MPEG2 files created with that first template.
Can I also deinterlace them with something? Like a script with TMPGenc or something.

Sort of like direct stream copy but with deinterlacing?

No, you can't process any clip without re-encoding.

OK, I have now encoded the video with the second script and the size is 656 Mb compared to almost 1 gigabyte with just the template and no visual degradation of quality :D This is the real stuff :D

The first script I haven't tried yet because it seemded like it would take forever to decode.

I have an AMD 2400 overclocked to true 2200 Mhz so it's got to be a very difficult script :?: I will try it later.

Also-the correct settings in TMPGenc are source-non interlaced and destionation progressive right?

Or should I leave source as interlaced and just encode as progressive?

Otherwise the results are great. I'm really happy with the results.
I'll be recommending it to all my friends. I told them about the forum but for noobs this always looks kinda complicated. I really appreciate your patience and time. Really great of you guys.

Congratulations!

The reason why the first script is slow is that it adapts to the motion in the video, blurring the parts with high motion more than the static ones. This may or may not improve compression, I personally use the RemoveDirt().TemporalSoften() approach for captures.

The next step for you would be to start playing with file size prediction (or start using MEncoder), for that I recommed that you go through the CQMatic forum.

I've never heard about Removedirt. How efficient it is comparing to deen for instance or something else more "known" ?

It doesn't improve compressibility as much as a simple Deen(), but the difference was very small (2-3%) when I tested it. What I like about it is that it's a temporal-only filter therefore keeping the details better than Deen. It's recommended to use a softener afterwards, hence the ultra light TemporalSoften(2,3,3,6,2).

Here's the official page:

http://www.removedirt.de.tf/

Just a uick question. Is it possible for the cropped video (those 16 pixels) to be stretched to completely full screen? So that there are no visible boarders on each side?

The TV set will expand it, don't bother.

That is why it's called 'TiVi'-overscan :wink:

Hi guys.

I've been using this script for months now and I am quite sattisfied-I left out the cutting of boarders (overscan takes care of it) because many people I give videos to watch them on monitors of PCs and it would be annoying.

The script has been serving me well but I was wondering if you guys figured out any new stuff in the meanwhile-any new recommendations?

Also is there a filter to make the colors a bit livelier. Compared to the original video, colors are a bit less vibrant in the KDVDs I get. Is there something to make them a bit more vibrant?

Thanks!

Probably the only new thing that has come up is RemoveGrain, which replaces UnDot nicely giving a compressibility gain as well. Try just RemoveGrain(), which defaults to mode=2. For more compression (and possibly some artifacts), try mode=8.

http://www.removegrain.de.tf (the website may load very slowly!)

OK. I will try it. On a small sample it already looks fine and size is smaller.

Thanks.

I never saw that :There is really no more reason to use Undot then :-)

I have to test that :-p

The SSE2 version doesn't work completely, I think that modes 5-8 are ones that work. I use mainly mode 8 for my TV caps, it's a nice preprocessor for RemoveDirt().

EDIT: kassandro recommends mode=2 for all purposes, better compression but no artifacts :D