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We just expect fair comparisons with other methods and people to be elegant enough to technically admit that KDVD techniques ARE NOT tmpgenc templates, as they work with the majority of soft. encoders out there, and that those are 100% DVD compliant, period. If they say otherwise, please document/post why they say it's the other way around. Anyway they could come here once in a while even if they don't like K techniques as they may come to learn something, as I do when browsing D9/vcdhelp. Cheers |
I think that whole "war" is ONLY based on philosophics and also who wants to follow which philosophic (the nice word "apostels"). :lol:
So I dont know WHAT THE HELL is that all about there? Makes no sense to put energies/explanations into such subjects which will everytime rise a new (IMHO). :?: :wink: |
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Our attitude is the same as most that try to push limits and extend standards. We are not the only ones that do that. That's what separates this kind of site from other standard sites, which will never have that spirit. Quote:
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Which is never claimed KVCD to be a "Standard", but you keep trying to put that word on my mouth ALL the time. My answer was also clearly posted on that last thread. And then your BEST post, which I never replied, because I had signed out of that site prior to this beautiful post, which I will now reply HERE :!: Quote:
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As to our propietary and registered matrix, it's our leverage over other matrixes and even over the standard. The MPEG Group clearly defined that part for the benefit of any manufacturer, both on MPEG-1 and MPEG-2. Quote:
So you see, in reality, anyone who owns TMPEG, CCE, MCE, has already paid their share to the MPEG-LA group, because when you bought the product, you are paying a small portion that goes to royalties. But you see, if a commercial company wants to integrate our matrix, they have to talk to us, because we hold the rights on our matrix. And that, my friend, I can take to the bank ;) Quote:
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But the same way, if ANY commercial company want's to oue our matrix, either on MPEG-1, the obsolete MPEG 1.5 or MPEG-2, the must pay US royalties, and that's a fact ;) Quote:
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KVCD is not a ripoff of any other work, and the matrix is my original work, not based on any other existing matrix. Period. Quote:
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I guess I could call this post: "An introduction to (the real) Satstorm :!:" -kwag |
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For my mind, someone who won't accept that the internet is worldwide, and american (or any country) rules cannot be forced onto the world is dictatorial and fascist. Excellent summation there, Kwag - I'd already read most of those posts.. LOL |
excuse me but .....SatStorm seems a nice guy! :wink:
i feel "education" and his words, of course is an great person! @ all we all have opinions.... and differents opinions(when exist) it not means enemys, right? like i always write(or try to write) english language loose some feelings in the phrases! translations and interpretations always loose feelings! :( now @ all and @ nobody...about standards: Henry Ford build the "T" model as standard. what i do with my ferrari? :? ntsc-m b&w tv is standard: what i do with my pal color tv? :? and the very complicated point: if you're not the oldest son in your family,can your parents think that you're not "standard" ? :lol: :rotf: standards are "labels" for conventional parameters that can be changed.... for better! :wink: |
I think that was a bit harsh Kwaq. I remember when you were
a newbie at videohelp.com and I'm sure I could scan through your comments and pick up bits and pieces to criticize. While you may despise the site, vcdhelp was part of the impetus behind your 'format' and the establishment of this forum. Hope you don't mind if I stick around and check things out as I did not know you were still around. KDVD sounds interesting. |
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It was usually busy posting answers :) ( or getting flamed for the things I was trying to do :roll: ) But hey, it's my nature :!: Do you know what is the nature of Radio Amateur (HAM) operators (I'm one) :?: The main goal is experimentation, pushing standards, and making new standards and other techniques :D This is what we do: http://www.arrl.org/hamradio.html One definition is this: # Promotion and enhancement of the Amateur Radio Service as a voluntary noncommercial public communications service. # Continual advancement of the art of radio communication. # Expansion of the reservoir of trained radio operators and electronic experts. # Enhancement of international goodwill at the grass roots level. References here: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Amateur_radio To give you an example, and to tell you that I am a radio freak, because in 1989 I set up the first 1.3Ghz Amateur Radio repeater here in P.R. :D Back at that time, everyone else was using either 144Mhz, 220Mhz and 440Mhz repeaters, and we (3 crazy ham operators) were having fun talking and doing data communication tests (X25 packet radio) at 1.3Ghz band :lol: So that's why I don't settle for "Standards", if they can be improved and modified for the benefit of everyone. Maybe some people can now see the relationship of this to KVCD :) Quote:
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My fire thrower (modified with the kvcd matrix) is designed to throw water. Not fire ;) EDIT: And sorry, I edited your post instead of replying to it, so I screwed up the original post. -kwag |
Kwag, we really have a communication problem here...
Anyway, here is the whole sentence about me an Turks: ------------------------------------------- Filotimo: "It contains a sense of honor, obligation, self-respect, and teamwork. Literally, it means love of honor" This is close, but as you see, you can't exactly understand it! The example given is not exactly accurate. You can use "filotimo" to "defend your country", but you also use "filotimo" to help your kids even if they are lazy 50 year old bastards, and you are 90 with one foot in grave!!!! Other example: We don't like our neighbour Turks. In the matter of fact, most of us hate them. We almost daily ready for war with them. Then, an earth strike appears and Turks had a dissaster. Because we have filotimo, we run first to help them. Filotimo is one of those things you can't understand when you are not Greek. In the matter of fact, filotimo is what make us and keep us Greeks! ---------------------------- This is a historical fact: I was in the army back in 1996, when we had a incident with Turks, close to war. 5 years later, they had an earthquick with plenty victims. There were our enemies right? Well, we where the first run to help them!!! Just ask them... Anyway, english is not my native language and mediterenian is my temper. You quote words. I talking about meanings. About the DVB and your ideas Sorry Kwag, but: I post and I was waiting for an answer. And I didn't state anything posting here. I just tried to calm things out. You bring all those things here To tell you the true, you don't play fair. And I wasn't prepare for this. The who we are shows. From our posts, our attitude, our expressions. Language is a barrier, but the meaning always exist. Anyway, if you wish to seperate so hard ways, no problem with me. And, don't keep telling us who you are. You are Kwag, I'm SatStorm and this is internet. If you don't seperate internet from real life, then you are a very advance person... About the attacks: I never attacked to you. Others yes, but not me. But, here, you obvious attacked to me. Just like you was waiting all those years to show up and do your stuff I mean, if you wish to stand for yourself, do it with those who really attack you. Not me... Anyway, sorry again for posting at your forum, because I feel that you don't want me here. Sorry again. |
Esto lo diré en castellano, espero me comprendan y que no quiten este post, más bien si a alguien le molesta, que lo traduzca.
Discusiones así (a otro nivel, por supuesto), por tonterías, son las que finalmente desatan guerras, estoy seguro. Si bien en el pasado se pueden haber dicho cosas, es propio de ser humanos el poder cambiar de idea o no, pero si de actitud. Yo veo aqui que SatStorm mantiene una actitud muy humilde, cosa que no puedo decir de otros inclusive en este mismo foro, y que se han traido cosas del pasado para agraviarlo. No merece la pena este tipo de discusión. A alguien le gusta más KVCD, adelante. Si es lo contrario, adelante. No han dicho aqui en varias oportunidades que lo importante es la amistad. O es que sólo son palabras? |
I completely agree with you Pro friend, but we need to realise that SatStorm is a Moderator @ vcdhelp.
He has the responsability! Remember that post from you when you were cheering VMesquita for his hard work with MencodeMe? Remember that you used some very "hard slang" Portuguese Google-translation words to show your feelings? That was the 1st time I realised that I was a Moderator here @ KVCD. And I remember I was going nuts about that post. I knew I had to do something. You weren't online and neither was Karl so there was no point in PMing you or him. And I was forced to edit your post against my own willing in your back. For some time I was furious with myself. That was the last thing I would want to happen! Hopefully you didn't get p**sed about it :) So you see SatStorm has the responsability and he knows it! He may well be a very nice Greek pal but he has to act when he sees something wrong. But instead of doing it all the time with some vcdhelp veterans he does it with Pacheco, a nice cool guy that apparently is also registered for quite some time there but that has a very low post count there! And what did I see Pacheco doing over there? Not much more than I did: claim for some respect between forums and forum members and asking for some fairness from them when we post that instead of saying "crap, period" they could say "not very interesting to me, but hey they have their forum and you may pick up some more info there". In the end, I think SatStorm all alone can't do much over there so he has to go with the flow otherwise they just ban him too, but that's only IMHO. On my side of it, I don't have a problem with SatStorm, so everything is cool, but I think he may have a problem between him and his conscience. Cheers everybody |
hey Correia,
:idea: maybe SatStorm will strike himself in his forum! :lol: but he seems a cool guy ! |
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Bravo, puesto bien :) @ Kwag Thanks. I did not ask many questions either because like you I guess I found it quicker and more 'reliable' to work things out for myself. Yes I have an idea about the nature of ham's. You mean AX25? Very nice. But how does repeating error corrective RF in digital packets state your case? Anyway I thought X25 was a standard from the 60ies? Sure, repeating AX25 packet radio in '89 at 1Ghz is cutting edge but it is not bleeding edge and certainly not new to the world, even though I'm impressed. Your team must have been one of the first ham groups in the world to do this. Still PR is still PR no matter what frequency you squirt, is it not? Any improvement in data casting is due to the spectrum - am I wrong? I think the main problem in your early days is that you originally modified a template (something that many others had also done) and decided to call it a new format. I'm not talking about your current work- just your original efforts. If I improve a tire tread patten, I'm not going to claim to have invented the wheel. I'm not saying you did this, but it was seen as such by some fairly respected people at the time. Hence the unpleasantness I guess. That and perhaps some less than intelligent input from supporters on either side. :) Anyhow, appreciate the welcome especially as I was not one of your supporters in the old days. |
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@ all see? :roll: (reading) ...good friends changing informations! :drunkard: (close little OT) (true topic is back) ... :roll: :roll: (still reading..) :roll: ...(Yo opino...) ...hey, they are really old and and remember lots of things before we born! :rotf: (true topic close) :oops: Fue sin querer queriendo |
:lol: I'm 36 jorel. Just a couple of toes in the grave, not a whole foot!
sorry for the OT Now back on on topic.. where were we.. KDVD is rubbish, video for windows v1 is the best! I can fit 10 minutes of DVD quality video on a single DVD! I hate you all .. is that better :lol: |
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