can Pro post about Smart-K in the forum without problems?
i'm really in doubts. :?
can pro post about that? http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15010 and in portuguese forum: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15011 after Karl post that adivice? http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14941 yes, or no? :? :? who can answer me please? thanks! :wink: |
I asked myself the same thing but after all, he just developped a tool that use diko. I don't think posting about this is like supporting Diko.
By the way, his tool is for "clean capture" and other format like Divx/Xvid... I think we can let him do. He won't have a lot of people answering to his post (and using his tool). |
ok Phil
but i close the thread about Smart-K in portuguese forum waiting that all doubts can be removed... remember that in portuguese forum they "love" divx and ilegals downloads. it can re-start what was hard to stop only one day after the advertences! :? my doubt remains the same. but thanks Phil.. :wink: .. i'm waiting for Karl decision! |
Several things:
First: IF such a tool uses DIKO then automatically this will come with DIKO related questions! AS DIKO is used for batching if I really understood that right. So unfortionally Pro forces an unwanted! "grey" area by using DIKO. And actually that DIKO subject is now (really unfortionally) a very sensible subject which causes other users to ask "Why is DIKO (even if minimal) supported via Pro's Release, but doesnt got its right to be discussed in other forum areas??". So thats not a unique appl. outside of the "mess" we've been through recently (-- seen clearly objective! No personal point of view related!) Second: We are again at a point where "Libavcodec" is the one which gives the KVCD related outputs .... and thats WHY Karl stopped that Mencoder/Libavcodec Area and I added that "Caution" Line in front of my Packshot Release/Download Thread. Third and most important: LowBitrate Encoding possibilities with his tool are provided and as we know (from all testing we have been through) that LowBitrate Encoding-Way via Libavcodec could(does) end up in a mess as underflows and max bitrate (especially when trying to keep at 2500 max) values in cases of KVCD or KsVCD are NOT guaranteed. Thats for instance why I first didnt want to release Packshot as a KsVCD/KVCD capable encoder. Remember? Dont misunderstand me! I totally underline appl. developings! I do help as much as I can (as seen in that thread where I explained Pro the correct resizing maths/logics and links which are probably included in his appl.). Its like a smash in the face if someone took a lot of time for developing and the first reaction is a "closed" ... oh oh ;-) And maybe its just a matter of help if we can help him to make his appl. independent from DIKO. Also I explain all this NOT cause I do bann DIKO out of my mind!, no, its because of the sensible situation actually in here - and all seen in an objective way/manner. My 2 cents. :wink: EDIT: Jorel IF I understood right in your closed-posting .... you did close that appl. thread due to the capability of his appl. to support Xvid/Divx ??? But in such a case you would have to close TmpgEnc, Packshot and much more appl. related threads where mpeg4 inputs are supported. I would recommend, that you dont point to that disclaimer but writing a little explication where its mentioned that first it has to be decisioned by Karl as DIKO is needed for that appl. BTW: Why closing in portuguese area and let it open in other language based areas ever person out there doesnt see the "logic"?? We only should close "them" IF Karl sees a problem *just IMHO* I do think Prodater could understand that in a better way ? :wink: EDIT: Also we should keep in mind that a lot of people (even its not recommended) do capture in mpeg4, means XVID/DIVX. Thats also a point why Phils "optimal scripts" do actually make sense. As they dont have that much disk-space like needed for a lossless HuffYUV capture :wink: So thats another point of "grey" zone we will be confrontated with in the future! 8O :wink: |
wrong observations...of course, is your opinion! :roll:
i don't point to the disclaimer, don't RE_START to change what i WROTE!! persons like you give me LOTS of problems doing EXACT what your're doing! when you THINK you DESTROY what i WROTE! i have DOUBTS and i'm not poiniting to :arrow: disclaimer. IF you have read what i WROTE, you will saw that. in portuguese forum is closed UNTIL the doubt remains...is POSTED there. :arrow: do you have some personal opinion agains't ME or my POSICION in that problem ink? i don't want OPINIONS from who THINK but SOLUTIONS... now answer me here and the mods forum is private: what do you talking about ink? YOUR opinion OR answering to REMOVE DOUBTS? or to put MORE doubts? :arrow: and don't THINK in what i wrote....READ what i wrote. you have all the time stranges answers for me. :arrow: CAN YOU post here WHAT is the PROBLEM? ME, MY doubts or WHAT you THINK?...IF you're thinking! trust me I'M TIRED of WISE guys! |
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DONT start trying to rumble with me my friend! Only cause you are in a phase where you like to "misunderstand" things from me or someone else! I see it makes NO sense to write you in a PN that theres NO but NO problem between us .... did you got my PM-reply?? RE-READ CAREFULLY MY LAST POST! And then you will see that there are just a few opinions and recommendations - NO!! Orders! or DOUBTS! (why should I --- I never used to!) NOW the most importand point!!! Quote:
If its ME who is the one on your personal list today, then go on! Its just a matter of a second and I'M AM OUT OF HERE! - no discussions! ------- My Threshold is set to 9 and you reached 8 :!: |
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And if you (Jorel) now start interpreting "what I edited" in my last post. Then I do clearify that I added that "Threshold" line at the very end .... only for your and the communities personal notice :!:
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about "wise guys" i'm talking about :arrow: Pro.not you!
for me seems so smart cos pro start a big problem with Karl in dikop forum,you don't saw? of course you saw cos you answer there. remember that pro posted? Quote:
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:arrow: you're not alone...seems a gang: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=111046#111046 http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=111045#111045 i misunderstand you? Quote:
you ALWAYS encrease the doubts and don't read what you wrote: Quote:
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like i wrote :arrow: seems a gang! next? |
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Now fishig deeeep for again trying to "mix up" things just to paint someone black as YOU LIKE ... cause thats your new behaviour! Instead using your brain and READ carefully what I wrote, YOU reached the threshold 9 by doing that. OK! By friends ..... IM OUT of here! (do interprete it as a behaviour of a "gang" but its my own decision...) |
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1/ the one you want to read or 2/ the answered given by the person (karl ?) you want to and only this one ? Because I give you MY answer (we can let him..) and I can't give you other thing that MY answer. By definition all what I say is MY words. Or let try other thing : Quote:
End of the thread. |
this is the second time that i came here to call for solutions and you comportament is like a GANG.
you are doing EVERYTHING :arrow: AGAIN! Quote:
i have MY doubts...you don't READ WHAT IS WROTEN..NEVER!!! Quote:
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you posted "somewhere" that you save the pages like me and i have this page saved BEFORE and AFTER you edit! i don't edit anything and you still DON'T ANSWER anything. no answers about the topic and no answers about the off topic that you did. :arrow: BETTER IS WAIT FOR KARL COS :arrow: YOU DON'T ANSWER ANYTHING,ONLY ENCREASE THE PROBLEMS. THREAD CLOSED (Karl,waiting for you.) @ "some" mods :arrow: please, have education and wait for KARL to re-open this thread! i'm starting to feel SHAME of you! it's incredible?!?!? 8O who can believe? :roll: but i'm right about that at 2o minutes ago and still there maybe doing: :blabla: :secret: :blabla: http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i.../2004/11/1.jpg who knows?!?! |
Re: can Pro post about Smart-K in the forum without problems
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First of all, I screwed up in not telling prodater more specific, that DIKO is out :!: We are going to keep it out of this forum, and if anyone posts questions about DIKO, let's just tell them DIKO has it's own forum. That's it. I just deleted all Smart-K posts, and asked prodater to please rewrite the posts, without the "DIKO" in it. If his program only relies on DIKO, then he better do something else with it I haven't seen the program, so I don't know what it does. @jorel, We don't need to close threads in the moderator's forum :) -Karl |
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Many users will start to ask "What's DIKO" and "How do I use it", and I think we don't want to start over again with DIKO threads. Quote:
Let's wait for his new posts :cool: I'll give his program a try :) Quote:
But it will all be fine once he posts the thread again correctly. -Karl |
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Re: can Pro post about Smart-K in the forum without problems
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In other words : (I guess) he used Diko only to parse the sources, verify the codecs used for audio and video, then select which work will have to be done. Removing the thread is like removing any tool or guide using GSPOT because you decide that GSPOT is not tolerated anymore. But no problem for me, this is your home... |
was the only solution for me close it Karl cos my internet is so slow and i can't write fast as they all....and they start to do off topic and like a machine gun doing the same AGAIN like in the first time that i call for help.
trust me, i can't mod feeling and PROOVING that they have something agianst me. i can't write so good in english and i never wrote what i don't feel! in my opinion, they are together like if they have another forum inside the forum....where one are,another is together,they or are quoting me without read what i wrote,or posting that i don't understood. how can i do? for fight they came FASTEr1 see that here have more than 80 views and who came here for help? only you Karl,the remiander only put MORE doubts...i can't stand it no more. if the situation don't change i am completely without support to call the mods in this place...i only got PROBLEMS doing RIGHT things. i can't stand it no more. or the things change or i go away.....all the time i need to wait for you to give solutions, they are not helping me and start to post what they THINK that i did wrong..... @ all mods do you want my place? with all my problems? i'm alone AGAIN and you are doing like a gang AGAIN! nobody can see it? i ask again: what is wrong? with you or with me? please, answer without accuse me of things that i don't did or against the things that i want to do in the favor of the forum! :arrow: but don't answer like a gang! |
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why all the time have someone against what Karl wrote about divx and things like that Phil?
:roll: @ Karl you're off topic :lol: please read my last post and the screenshot in the other please and after that answer me PLEASE: what i do if they argue my and your positions :arrow: all the time? |
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