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mma01 05-25-2005 04:19 AM

Problem playing kdvd on my sa dvd player
 
hey guys - i've made a couple of kdvd's using diko + dvdlab and burning it with nero - my last 2 movies are not playable on stand alone players and is playing fine on a pc - i dont think its a compatibility issue becuse
i've played kdvd's on the same sa players that isnt working with the new dvd's - any suggestions?

Dialhot 05-25-2005 04:37 AM

Others DVDs were done with the same method ?
Did you change media brand or reference ?

mma01 05-25-2005 04:43 AM

thanks for the fast reply again...
 
yes they were done with the same method - i didnt change the change media brand but i dont know what you meen by changing reference.
damn ...

Dialhot 05-25-2005 04:50 AM

Not all the media from a brand are equivalent.
Verbatim DVD-R 4x are very good but not Verbatim DVD-R 8x for instance.
And lot of brands have several references completly different (princo, budget...). That is why using only the same brand is not enought.

Dialhot 05-25-2005 05:54 AM

Okay, so you answered in an other (bad formated and that I removed) post that you use the same CDs.

What happens exactly when you put them in the standalones ? "not playable" covers a lot of situation.

mma01 05-25-2005 06:17 AM

error messege from sa player
 
one of theme says :" error on disk"
and the other one :" disk not playable"

8O

Dialhot 05-25-2005 06:32 AM

it sounds like a matter in the burning process. Did you scan the surface with tools like the one in "Nero CD-DVD speed" ?

mma01 05-25-2005 06:36 AM

"Nero CD-DVD speed"
 
no i didnt do that - but i will - thanks for your help - i'll be back with results

mma01 05-26-2005 03:33 AM

results
 
i've done the tests surface scan and cd speed - they both came out successful - i've reinstall winxp + dvdlab and tried again - but with the same results- my sa dvd is loading forever - and my pc is playing it with no problems.

both movies are pal and 704*576 resolution.
what do you say?

Dialhot 05-26-2005 03:43 AM

Try the old discs you did to see if they still play correctly on your SPA.
If yes, then the burner can be faluty (lens misalign ?). Else it's the SPA.
In both cases, get ready to buy a new one. Try to do a lens cleaning :idea:

mma01 05-26-2005 03:56 AM

answer
 
my old cd's are playing ok in the sa - i dont think that the burner is the problem becuse its burning other cds fine and the dvd are playing in the pc - maybe you'r right but i would like to try burning with another software - can you recomend one?

Dialhot 05-26-2005 04:05 AM

Re: answer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mma01
its burning other cds

cd are not burn with the same density than dvd.
Quote:

fine and the dvd are playing in the pc
with the same player used to burn them ?

Quote:

- maybe you'r right but i would like to try burning with another software - can you recomend one?
DVDLab can burn itself. Or open the video_ts directory in DVDShrink and ask it to burn using DVDDecypter (not using Nero of course). Or do an iso with Nero but burn it with DVDDecrypter.

But do not use tools like ImgtoolBurn because it uses Nero API to burn so it's the same than using Nero.

Note: I already said that elsewhere but it's not surprising to have a disc that can be read on a PC and not on a SPA. The SPA reads a 1x, the PC at 5x or more. That means that the PC can retry to read the same part several time and finally manage to get it correctly. The SPA can't.

mma01 05-26-2005 04:10 AM

not using nero
 
i understand that you dont recomend burning with nero at all or just for my testing? becuse i used nero all along.

rds_correia 05-26-2005 04:43 AM

Sorry to bump in on the conversation but I thought I should give my oppinion.
Although Nero is know to have a great burning engine, it hasn't been very well rated latelly when compared with DVDDecrypter burning engine.
For instance take a look in here http://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewt...226498#1226498
I have checked this out myself and I think that the results shown in that thread are truth although slightly different than the ones I got in my own tests.
If you are having second thoughts about Nero, give DVDDecrypter a chance.

It could end up prooving it's faster and that it has less problems during the burning process with you burner/media package.
Cheers

mma01 05-26-2005 04:47 AM

opinion
 
thanks man - i'll try it out

Dialhot 05-26-2005 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rds_correia
If you are having second thoughts about Nero, give DVDDecrypter a chance.

This summarize what was my idea in my previous post.
(note: personally I burn anything with Imgtool Burn, in other words with Nero).

mma01 05-26-2005 11:12 AM

solution
 
all i did was burn the files again on X2 speed - its ok now - thanks to you guys for your help .


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