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rocko 07-21-2017 07:29 AM

APC backup battery finally died, what next?
 
Any Low Cost, But Dependable Replacement Suggestions?

lordsmurf 07-21-2017 09:39 AM

After 5 years, most do fail. How much do you care to spend?
I always get the 1500 LCD units.

Price on this is not bad: https://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP...d626c86894b531
I think I paid about $160. I bet the reason is it's non-PFC.

If you have newer computer with PFC power supply, this one is required:
https://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP...ea1ca98b8fe85b
And $215 is what that's been for 2 years now.

I'd never get anything less than this:
https://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP...b9205f7e55c408

I prefer the older LCD units.
I think this is the same as the above unit, but with more-fudged numbers to seem better than it really is:
https://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-EC...38bedc9edd85ca

An APC warning for you:

Our local power grid uses new metering tech that killed all our APC units a few years ago. There is a known compatibility issue with whatever APC uses. So we swapped to Cyberpower -- and on the power company's dime. They had to reimburse us for all the lost gear. They didn't warn anybody, even though this had been reported by other APC users in other areas where the metering tech was in use, and APC themselves had buried weasel warnings in some documents ("might" blah blah blah). The power company tried to blow us off, so we threatened legal action (and would have carried through with it --most power companies are thankfully not 100lb gorillas, so you have a fighting chance). Not long after, we were called and told to submit a claim. Which we did, and within the month we had a check to buy new gear. This was several years ago, and the Cyberpower has been humming smoothly ever since.

This was at the height of my medical issues, so others here were handling it. I mostly just watched. This nonsense went on for 6 months.

Since, yeah, not an APC fan. :screwy:

A lot of people are unaware of this APC/metering interaction, and you still see "my new/not-old APC died" or "my battery keeps draining" or "my unit keeps chirping all throughout the day" posts. That's the metering tech interfering with the unit. It chirps, trips, discharges, and eventually dies.

sanlyn 07-21-2017 10:23 AM

APC and most other brands of UPS makers sell replacement batteries online, at Amazon, at shops like MicroCenter and BestBuy, and thousands of other sources all over the world. All you need is the model number of youir APC unit. It would also help if you hadn't thrown away the user manual for that APC unit, but you can probably download a copy from APC's website. The manual tells you how to open the unit, remove the battery, find its model number info, and get a replacement.

Typical APC replacement procedure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUHhtXRsjoo
Typical seller: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...ment+batteries

Google is your friend.

rocko 07-21-2017 09:59 PM

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Very interesting lordsmurf! Thanks.

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Originally Posted by sanlyn (Post 50304)
APC and most other brands of UPS makers sell replacement batteries online, at Amazon, at shops like MicroCenter and BestBuy, and thousands of other sources all over the world. All you need is the model number of youir APC unit. It would also help if you hadn't thrown away the user manual for that APC unit, but you can probably download a copy from APC's website. The manual tells you how to open the unit, remove the battery, find its model number info, and get a replacement.

Typical APC replacement procedure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUHhtXRsjoo
Typical seller: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...ment+batteries

Google is your friend.

Yes, thanks sanlyn, already did the search awhile ago, for my Back UPS XS1000, figured you guys would have a tip on best discount suppliers maybe.
And Rocko Never throws away anything, especially manuals, SEE! (Hee-hee)

lordsmurf 07-21-2017 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sanlyn (Post 50304)
APC and most other brands of UPS makers sell replacement batteries online

Even excluding our APC fiasco, both Cyberpower and APC UPS units have failed in the past

In my experience, the root issue is rarely the battery, and you just waste $10-20 that could have just been spend a new unit.

For years there, every generation is unit was getting better. Remember, battery tech R&D is hot these days, and it filters down to UPS units. I'm amazed at how light modern UPS are, and while having longer battery life.

rocko 01-09-2018 07:31 AM

Cyberpower UPS?
I have seen these on clearance at Walmart in days gone by, looking for 650w replacement, my ol APC BX 1000 bit the dust last year, currently using APC 350 that alarms now, and then, it will go pretty soon, I will look for Cyber Power unit. Not sure if power company issue applies to apartments, (my situation) or not.


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