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amill19 01-02-2025 03:10 AM

What's up, @lordsmurf

I have a laptop running Windows 11. I had been using Diamond VC500 for capturing through VirtualDub-1.10.4.
I have a JVC and a DVD player (forgive me, they're both in storage so I can't remember the model info). I had trouble getting the video to stabilize instead of bouncing, so I used an S-Video cable to run the feed through the DVD player. It worked like an absolute charm! I don't believe the tape(s) bounced at all.

Unfortunately, this was almost two years and got away from the video project I was embarking on. I was interested in the capture USB cards you had remaining. Which do you believe would work the most efficiently given what I am working with?
Also, can you assist me in how to run the feed through the DVD player, if possible?

I forgot which forum I had read on how to do that.

Thanks.

meljr 01-02-2025 09:18 AM

@amill19 - If you're going to be using Win11, I believe your only options are as presented, i.e., Tevion's ATi 600 clone or the Pinnacle stick (I assume you're in Europe and, therefore, need the PAL version). Both should be fine, although my understanding is that the Tevion requires minor tweaking in VirtualDub in order to bring out the best quality.

As for your setup, I'm assuming you're talking the infamous Panasonic ES10/15 player, which acts as a cheap frame TBC of sorts (not exactly but close enough for most people). You run the deck through the DVD player and then run the DVD player into the capture card. There should be plenty of posts about this setup if you go searching on the forum, including specific setup instructions for the player.

Good luck!

amill19 01-02-2025 07:01 PM

@meljr

I appreciate the assistance, my guy. However, I am actually in the USA. Everything strictly NTSC.

Also, the JVC I own has a TBC that was part of its' design. That could possibly explain why running the feed through the DVD player worked so well.

Do you happen to know the minor tweaking involved with VirtualDub?

meljr 01-02-2025 11:09 PM

Ahhh, cool. The late-night posting led me to assume Europe. Sorry. :) Anyway, just to be clear, the TBC in the JVC deck could be called "line TBC." It's different from "frame TBC," which is kinda sorta what the DVD player may be applying if it's the one I mentioned. Both TBCs are different and, in an ideal world, used to together to both maximize image quality (reduce geometric funkiness and individual image glitchiness) and smooth out the outgoing frames from the VCR (prevent frame drops and other nastiness that can mess with the resultant file).

Regarding the Tevion, here's what LS told me in an email recently about the Tevion. Nothing crazy but something to keep in mind.
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Originally Posted by lordsmurf
The Tevion uses the manufacturer bridge drivers, which are not tweaked. You have to go into the card proc amp settings (in VirtualDub), and adjust some values. Sharp 0, bright about -8. You can tweak others ±1 as desired. The good part is that VirtualDub tends to remember the value -- but only if the USB card is either left in, or at least plugged back into the same port. (When you move USB ports, drivers have to reinstall -- something most people don't know! So new install, new settings. So just remember that.)


lordsmurf 01-03-2025 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amill19 (Post 100537)
What's up, @lordsmurf

PM'd. :congrats:

Quote:

Originally Posted by meljr (Post 100541)
I'm assuming you're talking the infamous Panasonic ES10/15 player, which acts as a cheap frame TBC of sorts (not exactly but close enough for most people).

Actually, no. ES10/15 is a strong+crippled line TBC, with non-TBC frame sync. It's not a transparent device, and adds noises and unwanted alterations to the image. It's "better than nothing", but still not good in terms of a half-baked "TBC replacement".

meljr 01-03-2025 10:19 AM

Ahhh, sorry, my memory got mixed up on the exact nature of the TBC. :) Time to go back and double check my notes....

amill19 01-11-2025 03:30 PM

I appreciate it, @meljr!

I must apologize, gentlemen. I have had some pressing matters to attend to lately, so I have not been able to respond back to you for a little minute.

BarryTheCrab 06-30-2025 05:47 PM

I’ve never seen the note that states the much loved Tevion is better with VDub2. Is this new information?

-- merged --

I’d like a response on the Tevion/Vdub2 combo. Maybe this is not the correct place, but what is the difference from Vdub 1911? Is there a specific Vdub2 that is suggested? I’ve never seen this note.

lordsmurf 09-29-2025 09:09 AM

In WinXP, the Tevion does tend to work better with VirtualDub2, due to the way it interacts with the audio driver on preview. Possible VirtualDub2 issues still exist, but just monitor it.

This note is "new" as in with the past few years.

-- merged --

Listing updated. :)

Traderbam 09-30-2025 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordsmurf (Post 63152)
Listing updated. :)

If there is 1 Pinnacle left can you please use that one for my replacement please? I urgently need an update.

Cyclove0 11-08-2025 01:23 AM

Have you been getting my PMs?

Rolle68 11-16-2025 09:01 AM

LS: please check PM inbox :)

bumflufftornado 11-24-2025 11:49 PM

Also sent a PM :)

lordsmurf 11-25-2025 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclove0 (Post 105227)
Have you been getting my PMs?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolle68 (Post 105317)
LS: please check PM inbox :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bumflufftornado (Post 105388)
Also sent a PM :)

PM'd, PM'd, PM'd. :congrats:

___

FYI, to anybody reading this post, know that I always PM reply within days. But apparently I have to reply in public to a PM request, not just send the PM. Because if I don't, apparently people then think I don't PM when requested in public, which is not case.

<sigh> I hate over-communication. :wall1:

TPS reports, anybody? :laugh:

Traderbam 12-08-2025 08:10 AM

Got a Tevion clone from LS. Can anyone please confirm the correct timing settings in VDub and any other necessary tweaks please for this device?

Haunted_TBC 01-24-2026 01:00 PM

Wow, Lordsmurf is coming to us live from the far-off year of 2027!

lordsmurf 01-24-2026 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haunted_TBC (Post 106011)
Wow, Lordsmurf is coming to us live from the far-off year of 2027!

:laugh:

I left the reply in the middle of a server maintenance. Date was wacky, fixed.

UnicronHD 02-01-2026 06:11 PM

Interested, PM'd.

lordsmurf 04-08-2026 02:04 AM

Listing updated. :)


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