As noted above, some caps can be easy to replace, and some not so easy. Issues become finding a suitable replacement (physical size, voltage, capacitance, tolerance, ESR, etc.) and room on the board to work on it. Surface mounted are a bit trickier because it becomes easy to over heat the joint and delaminate the foil from the board. Newer gear tends to provide less working room, and handicams provide no room..
Some components, especially those in power supplies and high voltages circuits may be listed as a safety item with exact replacement called for by the mfgr. Some specialty components may no longer be available. So buying a beast of unknown condition as a project machine might produce a good end result, or at least provide some fun and amusement during long winter nights and/or COVID-19 isolation. |
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As a test, I recently bought 3 VCRs, all from auctions that seemed okay. And yet, all 3 were bad, all returned. Not even good for parts, at least not for that amount of money. At least one seller outright lied about "tested" (the power cord was dangerously frayed, prongs bent), conveniently hidden in the auction listing. WTF was that person thinking? Like I'd not notice when it got here? Or more likely, attempted shipping insurance scamming, which happens too often with expensive AV gear. Quote:
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- The chain-of-custody of the unit origins could be completely nonsense. And I've seen that quite frequently in the past 2 years. It used to not be that way, but scummy people figured out that it was a selling point to some buyers. The best times are when auctions are 100% copy/paste (both image and text) from another auction. FYI, this is exactly what the Houston VCR scammers does. Quote:
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As per RR above, the stench is something you can never forget. Nor scorch marks on the tile. It's not just about repairing gear, but knowing what to repair, if it can be repaired. That's something you want to know in advance, or at least have a good idea as to the actual issues. Not just a random buy, random issues, random possible bad outcomes (not just failure, but safety). As always, eBay is good for many things. It's still a great flea market, garage sale, for many items. Video gear is not one of them. You overpay as buyer, overfee'd as seller, and it's often failed crap either way. Buyer doubly, triply, beware! And "I told you so" in advance! |
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On a "positive" note I found VCRs at a garage sales that trill had a tape still in them. One was a kiddy cartoon tape in good condition, another some home-made "adult" material, |
Replying to everyone. lol
I have to admit, a faked video wasn't something I had considered... Am a noob? Yes, I would say so. I'm probably not a total noob overall (the overall part is the sticking point,) but still a noob. Old video and the 1000s of different players that were made and how they age isn't my area of expertise. I'll have to give all this some consideration. On the one bright side, I did find an old computer in it's case that's from the DDR2 days. It doesn't have an AGP slot, but it does have both PCIE and 2 PCI slots! So I should be able to use an ATI AIW card in it. I think I'll get it up and running with XP (which I still have) and see how she runs. All the necessary parts are already installed except for an AIW card. So... how do the PCI AIW cards age, and were any made with component audio and an S-Video port, or were they all composite only? Thanks |
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in the listing they said sth among the lines of: "from my own workflow, similar to datavideo tbc-1000, in fact in some cases I found this one to outperform both TV One 1T-TBC and Datavideo TBC-1000" And later the same seller posted a TV One 1T-TBC and wrote: "...to outperform both AVT-8710 and Datavideo TBC-1000" The funny part is not that he just copy=pasted and just swapped names, but in fact AVT-8710 and 1T-TBC are actually the same TBC in different outer chassis... I can no longer find the listing but it appeared in may/june a bit before the refurbd TBCs started to appear on eBay. |
I've been lucky, I guess. I found a 9600, 9800 and 2 9500's That were sold for parts on Ebay for ~$150-200 each (I know, overpriced, but that's Ebay). The only thing wrong with them was the DD, power supply caps and brakes/rollers. I have been able to repair all of them with parts from 3 750DD's that were ~$30 each, and refurbish/ align the tape path. I then sold the repaired VCRs for $450 each. I started doing this as a hobby during COVID, not expecting to make any money at it. I just love the challenge of repairing old electronics.
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- Keywest BV: https://www.ebay.com/itm/313756119564 "This unit is comparable to the datavideo TBC-1000, AVT-8710, and TvOne TBC in its ability to correct a noisy signal to broadcast quality for capturing. In some instances, it outperforms the other three." This is a boilerplate sentence I found in several other crap listings. Seems like it is the same old seller I mentioned in a previous comment on this thread, but he is back with a new account just registered this month and 0 reviews. buyer beware. |
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And I'm 99% sure I know where these came from. This know-nothing lying seller probably acquired the units from a recycler I know -- something I was offered early on. It was "lights tested" gear. So he has 4 BVTBC units, from the Voodoo rack. But that model is crap. So even it it "works", it doesn't work whatsoever. The base model BVTBC has horrible noise, especially on the s-video, and chipset flaws that makes a black Cypress/AVT-8710 look likes it's behaving. It's seriously so miserable that you're better off taking your chances without a TBC -- that's bad! :mad4: The seller is just an opportunist that is a complete video know-nothing. Odds are (1) the seller gets returns, or (2) the buyer doesn't realize the problem until after 30 days has passed, an extreme problem with eBay video gear buying when you're a newbie to video. So you're stuck with an expensive paperweight. Don't be a sucker. Quote:
Something to point out now, in case some snarky SOB eBayer wants to scream "NOT THE SAME!" Because it's very obvious that eBay sellers see the info at this site. (NOTE: I'm all for selling good units. What I'm against is selling crap, lying, and return hassles. It's anti-consumer. Unfortunately, for video gear, that's essentially what eBay has become. Junk swap meet, but at non-junk prices.) |
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Made an offer on that TBC3000 lol. He told me he declined a $2200 offer. No thanks.
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I made a $1500 offer. I'd probably go $2k on it. But not higher considering i'd be immediately sending out for refurb. But, someone will buy it. So might just have to accept these inflated prices.
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What you see on eBay is a recycler idiot reselling some dodgy old unit that looks like it was used to hold up a table. A scratched-up unit is a bad tell-tale sign. Cosmetics "don't matter", but cosmetics also tell you how it was treated over time. That unit isn't in good shape. As I often say, most eBay sellers wouldn't know a TBC from a toaster, and this is not any different in this exact situation. All the seller knows is that Google show him I sold a refurb'd unit for $4K some months ago, so his must be the same, right? (Of course not. Hell no.) All of those items that seller has are random crap from estate sales, storage locker auctions, etc. Have you ever seem how dumb the people on Storage Wars are? That's not an act. I've dealt with many of these folks, often from them contacting me. (The google the item, finding me -- aka "asking the experts" like they do on Storage Wars, or "asking a buddy" like Pawn Stars. On Pawn Stars, they act smart, but it's clearly after crash-course research before filming, they're not that wise on all things they sell.) Many of these people are money-grubbing a-holes that don't care about your video capture well-being. A member here was recently ripped off by a lying eBay seller. I shared some info with him, as I knew the true lineage of that exact unit, and how it was always known to be bad. The sellers involved were shysters, not pleasant folks to deal with after initial contacts. That's who you're dealing with on eBay 95%+ of the time for this sort of gear. It's not like when I go there to buy an action figure, and the seller is often somebody from within that community. It's sad reality that we have to deal with as analog video capturers. Be careful. |
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That being said, even if the unit is beat up and not perfect, if i'm going to find someone to recap/rebuild/test, does it matter that much, assuming I can get a deal? Unfortunately this is literally the only rack datavideo unit with proc amp for sale right now. They show up on ebay maybe once a year, and double the price each time. So i'm at the point where i'm saying fuck it and doing what i have to do to get the gear, knowing i'll need to spend more to have it rebuilt. Really hoping this "better generation" kind of info on the runs of the datavideo units is in your upcoming guide. Gonna save us all a lot of headache. |
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Please link me to the $150 sale lol, I need to see it for myself so I can feel worse.
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The link is dead anyway. If you really want to feel worse I still have a link for a green avt sold for 40$ on ebay :D |
That 3000 sold for $2500 lol. So, next one will probably be listed for $3500. :(
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