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JiggyGino 11-14-2021 12:27 AM

Possible to rip 4k video?
 
I'm looking to start a YouTube channel. I haven't purchased any equipment yet. I've read about issues regarding hdcp content. I'm looking to start a channel where I compare the quality of a Blu-ray movie to a 4K that I own on disc. Doesn't have to be video clips but rather still shots if that helps my chances of not getting any copyright strike.

I understand that I have to buy a capture card and some type of splitter bypassing hdcp or some of other type of 4k device like Cloner Alliance pro.

I just wanted to check that this is all legit before I start investing anything.
Most movie channels I see online don't show clips or still shots but rather just talk about the video quality. I want to be able to show my viewers the difference rather than go by my word alone.

I would appreciate any assistance on this matter. Let me know what kind of equipment you guys recommend. Really appreciate it! 😉

P.s. I am aware that YouTube compresses video quality but I'm sure people can still see a difference between a 10 GB file and a 50 GB file. Also, if YouTube does this why is there a 4K playback option???

msgohan 11-14-2021 02:52 AM

If you'll only be comparing screenshots, there's already a website dedicated to that, and there are already YouTube channels that take their images and and upload them as videos.

The proper way to do it is by ripping the discs in your computer, not using a capture card. Head over to the MakeMKV forums for more details. You'll need a PC with a "UHD friendly drive", not an official locked-down Ultra HD Blu-ray certified one. (Note: I've never ripped these personally, and I'm not up-to-date on the latest info.)

You'll have to learn how to process HDR video and whether you want to present it on YouTube in HDR, or tone-map the UHD source.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JiggyGino (Post 80776)
I am aware that YouTube compresses video quality but I'm sure people can still see a difference between a 10 GB file and a 50 GB file.

Don't be so sure. The amount of detail that gets smeared away by YouTube compression can be shocking, especially if you're comparing something like grain retention between a 1080p & UHD copy of a movie.

JiggyGino 11-14-2021 10:51 AM

Thanks for the replies.
I knew about make MKV and handbrake as well.

What I don't understand is why I see some channels in 2160p and they look really good, nice and crisp. You can definitely tell the difference between something shot in 1080 and 2160.

Is there a difference if you shoot strictly from a webcam as opposed to a capture card?
Because everyone tells me that YouTube highly compresses the quality but yet I don't see it on some of these channels I stream. I guess recording yourself live is different than capturing video from a movie?

Can anyone shed light on this? I'd like to upload in 4k if possible.

msgohan 11-14-2021 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JiggyGino (Post 80783)
Because everyone tells me that YouTube highly compresses the quality but yet I don't see it on some of these channels I stream.

To some extent, how could you? We don't have the original files to compare to. MKBHD's 4K videos look great, but in past videos discussing his setup he's talked about how much better they look before they're uploaded and crunched down by YouTube. The fact that the 2160p streams look better than the 1080p streams doesn't negate this. (There may be a confounding factor: I've read that for certain highly-viewed channels, YT compresses the videos using a better codec and bitrate. Don't know how true this is.)

Additionally, compression in general works much better for clean, noise-free video. A lot of catalog titles are very grainy; Ghostbusters, for example. The YT 4K version of this comparison does seem to preserve this accurately enough, though. I'm only looking at it on my 1080p monitor, but showing stills on YouTube as you plan could work.

JiggyGino 11-14-2021 12:28 PM

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions msgohan. I really appreciate it.
👍

Do you know anything about the ClonerAlliance UHD pro? Have you ever used it or read good things about it? I watched some YouTube reviews and it seems to make the the task of transferring video easier. Just worried about that hdcp protection.

msgohan 11-14-2021 07:33 PM

Sorry, I've never heard of it.

JiggyGino 11-14-2021 08:31 PM

Here's the Amazon link:

Scroll down to the product description and you'll see what it can do. Just wondering if it's better than buying an external 4k drive.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08T1PT4P4/...8CDDGGF9WZV6WC

Your thoughts or anyone else?


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