Adventures with cables, cables, cables
Is there anything straightforward about this VHS capture?
I bought a Hauppauge HD PVR2 and it came with this cable. It has an 8-pin DIN on one end, and five RCAs on the other, giving this arrangement:
So I tried to buy the special cable required, from Hauppauge USA; 8-pin DIN one end, 4-Pin DIN and 3 RCAs the other. "No, we don't sell to Australia", when I tried to checkout. Tried Hauppauge Singapore, the closest office. "Mr Burns, please contact Hauppauge UK" Tried Hauppauge UK. "Guy, you can buy this cable from our US website. Here is the link" Back to the USA website, grabbed a screen shot, emailed it to the UK, and after they looked into it, they convinced Singapore to sell me a cable. Great. Cable arrives. I can begin capturing. But no, the S-video end was female. So I needed a standard S-video cable to connect the Hauppauge and the VCR. No store in the whole of Tasmania had them. Electronic stores, Hi-fi stores, I emailed or phoned every likely suspect. eBay had them on the mainland, but that could take a week. So, off to the five charity shops in Devonport that sell used equipment, and then the Tip Shop (the recycling centre). Nah. Finally got two S-video cables at another Tip Shop in another town. Get home, connect the cable and… no signal to the Hauppauge. Several hours later, after testing all connections on all cables using a multimeter, squeezing the connectors, twisting the cable (checking for breaks), then using the VCR, my old Tube TV, a DVD player… still no signal. Then it came good. Some pin, all along, not making proper connection. Then I started looking into how these cables work, and I can't get my head around it. The Hauppauge has an 8-pin female socket, but I'd like to know what the pins do. I would have thought there should be:
2 for audio (grounded at case) 4 for S-video (Y, C, 2 grounds) 1 for composite (Y + C as one signal) 3 for component (Y Pb Pr) Ten pins. So three of them must serve the save function. This is where I'm lost. According to Wikipedia, Y is derived from all three original RGB signals, and is the luma, the brightness. I assume the "Y" is the same for S-Video and Component video, so those two can double up on one of the pins. So now we're down to 9 pins needed. Ques: How do we get down to 8 pins? Which other signal has been doubled up? |
You're trying to use an HD gamer card to capture analog videotapes. That won't end well.
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What I do know is that Aja breakout cables for SD capturing were made with multiple uses labelled on all 3 component input (capturing) and output (monitoring) connections: Y / Composite in Pb / Y in Pr / C in Y / G / Composite out Pb / B / Y out Pr / R / C out Makes perfect sense since you can only either use (a) all 3 for Component, (b) 2 for Y & C, or (c) 1 for Composite at one time for input. Maybe yours routes the Composite, Y, and C inputs down the same pins as Y, Pb, and Pr. Is this not clearly labelled and/or specified in its technical documentation? |
I couldn't find any technical documentation for the cables, but they're both unique to Hauppauge, so I suppose they could have been designed any which way.
Your suggestion of different routing maybe what's happening. I have to select Component, HDMI, S-Video or Composite, and when I do so, maybe the Hauppauge is expecting different signals on certain pins, depending on the selection and the different cables. |
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