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RolledJoel 11-15-2024 04:28 PM

Panasonic NV-HS1000 static lines?
 
I have this player which is under warranty in another country. It has a warranty sticker, I would like to avoid opening it up unless it’s just a case of cleaning the tape heads. The lines generally occur toward the top of the video. It is not the tapes as I have a JVC which plays them all fine. Is it worth cleaning the tape heads or could this be another issue?

Thank you for any insight :)

aramkolt 11-15-2024 05:02 PM

Post a picture of the captured video. Could be as simple as a tracking issue, or alignment problem. It also matters if it does it with all tapes or just one. If it's just one, then could be the machine that recorded it had the issue originally. Dirty heads usually won't cause static lines in just one area of the video. If you'd have said there was static at the very bottom few lines only, that'd be most likely head switching noise, but that doesn't seem to be what you're describing.

RolledJoel 11-15-2024 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aramkolt (Post 99783)
Post a picture of the captured video. Could be as simple as a tracking issue, or alignment problem. It also matters if it does it with all tapes or just one. If it's just one, then could be the machine that recorded it had the issue originally. Dirty heads usually won't cause static lines in just one area of the video. If you'd have said there was static at the very bottom few lines only, that'd be most likely head switching noise, but that doesn't seem to be what you're describing.

Here is short clip. It happens with all tapes. tracking with the remote does not help.

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/f...X59aSLqE3csZI_

latreche34 11-16-2024 01:15 AM

I've seen that artifact before on 8mm recordings, Was this tape dubbed from a video8 or Hi8 tape into VHS by any chance?

fafeco 11-16-2024 07:22 AM

This looks like Hanover Bars. I've had the same effect when playing VHS tapes recorded in an older, different machine than the VHS (non S-VHS) one playing it, with a direct composite video connection to an ATI AIW 8500DV. In my case, a Panasonic DMR-ES10 between both devices solved it, but it would be a pity to degrade the quality of the Panasonic VCR you're using only to solve this minor issue. Perhaps the adequate AviSynth filter could restore this out-of-phase color error without the drawbacks of the Panasonic DMR.

RolledJoel 11-16-2024 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by latreche34 (Post 99791)
I've seen that artifact before on 8mm recordings, Was this tape dubbed from a video8 or Hi8 tape into VHS by any chance?

This is a VHC-C tape. The issue is it happens with over 90% of tapes. I have seen it play a couple of consumer tapes where it does not happen. Where as my JVC plays them fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fafeco (Post 99799)
This looks like Hanover Bars. I've had the same effect when playing VHS tapes recorded in an older, different machine than the VHS (non S-VHS) one playing it, with a direct composite video connection to an ATI AIW 8500DV. In my case, a Panasonic DMR-ES10 between both devices solved it, but it would be a pity to degrade the quality of the Panasonic VCR you're using only to solve this minor issue. Perhaps the adequate AviSynth filter could restore this out-of-phase color error without the drawbacks of the Panasonic DMR.

I’ll try this filter. Unfortunately having just tested an es-10 it made no difference. Thanks for the suggestions.

latreche34 11-16-2024 09:12 PM

It's not the playback, it's the camcorder that recorded them, I thought only 8mm camcorders had this issue but apparently VHS-C camcorders too, I'm assuming this is a PAL format, right? Because I haven't seen this on NTSC camcorders yet.

RolledJoel 11-17-2024 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by latreche34 (Post 99813)
It's not the playback, it's the camcorder that recorded them, I thought only 8mm camcorders had this issue but apparently VHS-C camcorders too, I'm assuming this is a PAL format, right? Because I haven't seen this on NTSC camcorders yet.

It is PAL yes. It occurs with regular VHS tapes as well. Tapes with TV recordings as well. The only rare occasion it does not happen is on a commercial tape.


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