Is Panasonic AG-1980 worth it for VHS-C?

[dinoman64]

Hi guys, I think I'm the only person on here using a JVC HR-SC1000u. The machine is one of very few that can play VHS-C tapes without an adapter. It's a well built mechanism and I assumed it would be better at playing VHS-C than a standard VCR because it's specifically made for that.

After spending a lot of time fixing it, I finally got around to transferring some tapes. I'm using a GV-USB2 and Panasonic ES-10 passthrough with VirtualDub on WinXP.

The VCR works just fine, it's not perfect. Standard commercial tapes play great, occasional dropouts but nothing out of the ordinary for the old tapes I'm playing. A freshly recorded tape plays flawlessly, like zero dropouts. This thing doesn't have any drop out compensation or any other digital processing besides a "stabilizer" function. It's got a brand new head drum. The transport mechanism is old and needs frequent alignment tweaks though, even after just sitting for long periods it can go out.

I have about 30 VHS-C tapes to transfer, all recorded with a mix of SP and EP on each tape. The tapes are all name brand, mostly JVC or Panasonic from 1996-2007. All stored properly, no damage or mold.

VHS-C playback is what you would expect, not as great. Mostly very stable just noticeably more dropouts. I'm not that happy with the results, but I am a perfectionist.

I'm starting to wonder if I should just get the AG-1980 so I don't waste my time with mediocre transfers.

A refurbished AG-1980 is out of my budget, there's a couple on ebay that I'd be willing to spend the money on and fix myself. I'm concerned that I might not be able to repair one up to a high enough standard to be satisfied with the results. I've aligned my VCR with a scope, replaced capacitors, etc. I just don't want to buy another machine, spend time fixing it, and finding again that maybe I'm not good enough at repair or the tapes are simply just old and slightly degraded.

If what people say about the AG-1980 is true, I think most of my tapes would look flawless.

Does anyone have any examples of VHS-C tapes on the AG-1980 VS a different deck? Is it that much better? Is it worth it?

[timtape]

Hard to say from here. We have neither your player nor your tapes to make a judgement on either, let alone as a combination.

Yes this isnt 2000 but 2025. The machines havent been made for many years. Condition of the player and the likelihood of getting it to "as new" playback performance" is very important.

Why not upload a couple of samples, including audio which can be tricky to get right especially on LP/EP?

[lordsmurf]

Welcome.

TL;DR = yes, AG-1980P worth it, but only if you buy it from the right place/person. (So not TGrant, not Southern Advantage, definitely never eBay or the lying/incompetent eBay sellers, etc.)

Replying as I read...

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Originally Posted by dinoman64

Hi guys, I think I'm the only person on here using a JVC HR-SC1000u.

Doesn't that model not have a line TBC?

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The machine is one of very few that can play VHS-C tapes without an adapter. It's a well built mechanism

Not a good reason to avoid adapters.

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and I assumed it would be better at playing VHS-C than a standard VCR because it's specifically made for that.

VHS-C is a pesky format, and really has little in common with VHS in a handling/quality sense. The tapes were, in a word, crap. I regret ever having used it (for our family recordings in the 90s), and we should have used Hi8 instead. Hindsight.

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After spending a lot of time fixing it, I finally got around to transferring some tapes. I'm using a GV-USB2 and Panasonic ES-10 passthrough with VirtualDub on WinXP.

<sigh> The GV-USB2 meme strikes again. Too many people are using that subpar card. I'm actually surprised VirtualDub works with it. That Japanese cards tends to only work well with the Japanese software AmaRecTV (which is itself made for recording video games, not videotapes). Hmm, I wonder if XP is why VirtualDub works? What are your timing settings? Screencap it.

ES10 is a decent line TBC(ish) to use with that non-TBC deck. It's budget, not what should be used for any sort of serious work (neither hobby nor pro, just one-off DIY if on a strict budget).

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The VCR works just fine, it's not perfect. Standard commercial tapes play great, occasional dropouts but nothing out of the ordinary for the old tapes I'm playing. A freshly recorded tape plays flawlessly, like zero dropouts.
It's got a brand new head drum. The transport mechanism is old and needs frequent alignment tweaks though, even after just sitting for long periods it can go out.

Honestly, as is expected, with this format, with this sort of mid-range deck.

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This thing doesn't have any drop out compensation or any other digital processing besides a "stabilizer" function.
VHS-C playback is what you would expect, not as great. Mostly very stable just noticeably more dropouts. I'm not that happy with the results, but I am a perfectionist.

Yuck. Having no DOC is actually somewhat rarer with NTSC decks, especially JVCs

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I'm starting to wonder if I should just get the AG-1980 so I don't waste my time with mediocre transfers.

This is exactly what you're doing. Wasting time, inferior results. As expected. Some people don't value their time, and will suggest all sorts of gear, in the sole effort of avoiding spending money on the gear that would (a) make their life easier, (b) give the quality desired, maybe even better than the person imagined was even possible.

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A refurbished AG-1980 is out of my budget, there's a couple on ebay that I'd be willing to spend the money on and fix myself.
I'm concerned that I might not be able to repair one up to a high enough standard to be satisfied with the results. I've aligned my VCR with a scope, replaced capacitors, etc. I just don't want to buy another machine, spend time fixing it, and finding again that maybe I'm not good enough at repair or the tapes are simply just old and slightly degraded.

eBay is not a gold mine, it's a land mine. You think you're wasting time now? You ain't seen nothing yet!

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If what people say about the AG-1980 is true, I think most of my tapes would look flawless.
Does anyone have any examples of VHS-C tapes on the AG-1980 VS a different deck? Is it that much better? Is it worth it?

Most people have projects (or projects for others, ie no permissions), and are not going to make bad captures just to showcase how great the gear is. They want to use it, get the job done. It takes a lot of effort to make something like that for others, and it generally serves them no purpose. So this is why you don't see lots of before/after online.

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I have about 30 VHS-C tapes to transfer, all recorded with a mix of SP and EP on each tape. The tapes are all name brand, mostly JVC or Panasonic from 1996-2007. All stored properly, no damage or mold.

Instead of blowing money on eBay, considering using the same funds to outsource the project to somebody reliable. (For only 30 -C tapes, I'd reluctantly do it. But only if you let me take the before/after as part of that process. Because I'm getting tired of always being asked for samples. So I'll need your lossless files on HDD/SSD, to compare to your current attempts. In fact, I have some other decks I'd run tests on, so multi-test!)

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Originally Posted by timtape

Hard to say from here. We have neither your player nor your tapes to make a judgement on either, let alone as a combination.

I feel like we're getting this sort of response too much lately. There's enough information in posts to have a good general idea. We know the hardware, the typical issues, the typical outcomes of better gear. It's not always that exacting to specific tapes.

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Yes this isnt 2000 but 2025. The machines havent been made for many years. Condition of the player and the likelihood of getting it to "as new" playback performance" is very important.
Why not upload a couple of samples, including audio which can be tricky to get right especially on LP/EP?

This.

[aramkolt]

If you're on the fence, if you send me one of your tapes that you've already captured that you're seeing some issues with, I can transfer it the way that I normally would with a refurbished AG1980 and you can decide if the result is enough different/better than what you got and decide if the AG1980 does what you are thinking it will. If you want a guaranteed good result without the effort at roughly the same cost of a parts machine plus the parts, [have somebody] transfer all of your the tapes with a refurbished AG1980 for around that price.

It's theoretically possible that the tapes could get lost in shipping which is the main downside. The guard against that would be to transfer them yourself first as a "just in case" copy so that the content isn't totally lost if they were to get lost in shipping.

As far as whether I recommend refurbing yourself, if those are your only tapes and you don't plan on doing more later, I probably wouldn't bother given the above option. It's pretty satisfying to have successfully refurbished such a machine, but even more frustrating to have spent the same amount of time, effort, and cost to end up with a machine that still doesn't work, so it is quite a a gamble if you go that route.

[lordsmurf]

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Originally Posted by aramkolt

if those are your only tapes and you don't plan on doing more later, I probably wouldn't bother given the above option. It's pretty satisfying to have successfully refurbished such a machine, but even more frustrating to have spent the same amount of time, effort, and cost to end up with a machine that still doesn't work, so it is quite a a gamble if you go that route.

This.

Note to self: I need to add one of those pointing up smileys.

[dinoman64]

Thanks for the replies!

Lordsmurf, thanks for the generous offer to transfer some tapes, I don't feel that comfortable having anyone but myself transfer the tapes, even though you are probably the most qualified person I know of. They are very sentimental! I'm sure you guys understand, since most of us here are doing our own transfers. I will consider it some more though. Family videos can be hard to watch sometimes too, maybe it would be easier to have someone else do them. Even then, I'd be terrified of them getting lost!

I do actually still have the original VHS-C motorized adapter we used back in the day. I'm pretty sure it's the good one.

I'm not completely happy with the GV-USB2, it's great device compared to the awful blackmagic intensity pro I was using before, but it barely works with virtualdub, the video preview and histogram will not show simultaneously, and I have to use the GraphStudioNext workaround for the proc-amp. There's a decent amount of capture errors too, I'm not sure whether it's down to the card or the ES-10. They kinda look like dropouts but one entire line has gone white or rainbow for the duration of a single field. At this point since I'm already using WinXP on a computer I use for negative scanning, I might as well look out for an AIW card.

Not 100% sure if the deck completely lacks DOC, it's from 1991 and doesn't mention anything in the service manual so I'm just assuming based on my capture results.

Definitely agree that eBay is too risky. I probably would be wasting a lot of time, even though I enjoy electronics repair, the ag-1980 doesn't look fun to repair. I have wasted a lot of time on this whole thing trying to do it on a budget, you're right. I've learned a lot though.

If I can find a good AG-1980 for a fair price that's probably the best place to start. Should the built in line tbc be enough?

I'm not unhappy with the ES-10, so far it's been solid. No dropped frames yet. There's some parts of tapes that can have a little vertical jitter which may just be down to the VCR, happens only really on EP.

I know 30 tapes (maybe even less actually) doesn't really seem like enough to justify the money spent but I guess I can resell the gear when I'm done. I've actually been planning on archiving these tapes for many years, since I noticed even back then that the VHS-C tapes seemed to look worse the more you play them back. That's another reason I'm hesitant about putting ALL of my precious tapes through a machine that I screwed around with. The sound of the heads striking the tape makes me cringe, especially when you hear the sound change slightly.

Realistically I can't afford to spent 4 grand on a setup, doesn't make sense. If I can somehow squeeze it all in for around $1k, that would be doable. Then I can sell it on to the next guy. (although I'd be tempted to hang on to a nice deck in case vhs-decode actually becomes really good someday)

Any suggestions on where to buy an AG-1980?

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aramkolt, I appreciate the offer, I may have a tape that I'd consider sending to see how the AG-1980 deals with it. It's got some tracking issues at the beginning but otherwise it's a solid tape, it only contains about 4 minutes of footage.

My capture shows what I think is an acceptable amount of dropouts during the more stable portions where the tracking is ok. I'd be curious to see if the AG-1980 eliminates the dropouts completely.

It's really hard to know if there's any improvements to be had, a lot of the tapes have nearly flawless clips and quite messy clips mixed in throughout the tape. Could be how the tape was recorded, could be age, could be my machine. Really difficult to know.

[lordsmurf]

About not mailing tapes, understood, that's a common fear, and a reason (of many) why gear sells. Sometimes fear is healthy! But still fear. The happy medium is to (a) do as good a job as you can, with the tools you have available, then (b) send those off for a 2nd attempt. This does carry "one and done" risks, not just mail risks. These days, videotapes are all about mitigating risks, while extracting the content.

I don't know what aramkolt has available, or is charging for it, but he may be your best option for AG-1980P right now. He's really new at all this, maybe 6 months experience at it. And yet, he is showing to be one of the only good options for AG-1980P. I reserve final judgement for when I see actual work, but everything I'm reading (even ignoring his feedback others, just going off his tech talk) is vastly better than most. (Last I knew, Deter was out of stock, gear hiatus, maybe even gear sabbatical. Gear burn-out is real, I struggle with it at times.)

However, I do wonder if certain JVCs will work for you. Most JVCs are tape eaters, though a few are not. But condition matters. AG-1980P is not automatically always better, just often, in general. All rules have exceptions.

Line TBC usually is not enough to prevent dropped frames and audio sync errors. Some form of frame correction is needed. The ES10 has a non-TBC frame sync, which does have visual issues (and you have noticed some already). And yet, better than nothing.

On your middling tight budget (yep, $1k is tight!) I would say you need 3 things:
- quality more-modern S-VHS deck (for transport, image stability, etc)
- ES10 as strong+crippled line TBC with on-TBC frame sync -- but noting you take good with bad here
- better capture card

You can try the AG-1980P with and without line TBC here, but no ES10 leaves you open to frame-based issues. Realistically, you'd looking at $2k+ here, and that's assuming you can buy the 1980 at a less-than-market rate (which aramkolt did last year).

In an ideal world, you'd get
- AG-1980P (or certain JVC)
- non-flawed frame TBC
- known-quality capture card

You've already gone down the "buy the not-best stuff, try to make it work", and this is where it's gotten you. As I always say, video has costs. Either money or sanity -- sometimes both (when not buying the correct items).

As an example, right now, I could make an NTSC workflow. One workflow. One. When it's gone, I have no idea if/when I can make another. Even for me, trying to locate decent gear (non-working refurb candidates, not even truly "working") has become challenging. It's only going to get worse, and drive up costs more (due to high parts/time repair costs, not just scarcity).

This is the reality of VHS ingest gear now.
- you get what you pay for
- the longer you wait, the harder it gets to find, and more costly it comes

[dinoman64]

Yeah, I considered a more modern JVC too, I actually find that most Panasonic products are kinda like german cars, really good but always broken. (I drive a BMW)

The prices on ebay for modern JVC decks are outrageous now too. I think I'd trust a thrift store JVC over anything honestly, seems like the best shot at a low hours, never messed with machine. But thrift stores are a bust too, too many resellers have caught on.

As far as Frame TBCs go, I experimented in the past with a Panasonic wj-ave5 video mixer as a frame sync. It worked fine, crops the image very slightly, not sure I'd really want to use it unless necessary.

I think I might try the "happy medium". Keep my eyes peeled for any sort of modern JVC deck. Capture card is ok until I sort out the VCR. If the Panasonic is a huge improvement to quality then I'll consider getting one.

Even as it is now, the captures I'm getting are actually watchable, and you don't notice the flaws much when you're focusing on the content. I'm just a perfectionist, I would prefer "archival" quality but I guess something is better than nothing.

[lordsmurf]

Thrift stores have been a bust for about 10 years now. All you find there is Funai combo VHS decks, or random low-end junk like GE and Sanyo VCRs from 30 years ago. Long gone are the stories of finding S-VHS decks -- and those were mostly in urban areas near colleges or rich school districts. I never saw an S-VHS deck in a thrift store, not a one.

Mixers are not TBCs. For the models that do have some sort of TBC embedded, it's always weak, often mere line, and it solely exists to assist the device (not your external sources). Going back to the car analogy, a mixer that "also has" a TBC is sort of like an engine that needs premium gas. It has no benefit to you as the driver, and is solely there because the internal engine needs it. Any perceived benefit to you directly is mostly imagined.

For -C, don't get the HR JVC decks, and even some SR are bad news. But again: condition, condition, condition.

I don't see that pricing for JVC decks is outrageous. Outrageous for the condition (it's all crap), yes, definitely. But if the deck were actually good, the current pricing really is no different than MSRP. In fact, with inflation, most are 50% of original MSRP. And that tracks with the prices of still-in-demand used AV/photo gear. These are not the home VCRs that kids put PB&J sandwiches in, but serious hobby and small-studio gear. But again, eBay almost never has "good gear", that's really just an oxymoron eBay is a flea market, not a trustworthy source of gear. 99% of it is recyclers and resellers, and they don't the different between Super VHS and Superman.

You can always take your tapes, set them aside somewhere secure and temperature controlled, and revisit this when budget allows. For now, you have inferior "watchable" (not a compliment) copies. Although, again, you run the risk of gear getting even harder to locate later. Perhaps grab that capture card upgrade, it's fairly cheap.

[timtape]

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Originally Posted by dinoman64

...If what people say about the AG-1980 is true, I think most of my tapes would look flawless.
Does anyone have any examples of VHS-C tapes on the AG-1980 VS a different deck? Is it that much better? Is it worth it?

That is a perfectly reasonable request and you're not the first to have made it.

[billct97]

Talking to my neighbor about my VHS transfer project and they said "hey our wedding video hasn't been seen in 30 years and it's on VHS-C.". So if and when they dig it out, assuming they have the adapter, I can compare AG-1980 and JVC HR-S9800U. Private Message me if I forget and no one else offers.

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My neighbor dropped off the JVC VHS-C tape inside the JVC C-P6U adapter. The adapter seems pretty high quality for all the bad I've read about these adapters. By accident I discovered the AA battery which fortunately had not exploded but was completely dead. I put in a new one and popped it in the JVC deck. The tape looked like it hadn't been played since it was recorded in 1995. Knowing my neighbor it hadn't been and was well stored. The tape played without any issues but unfortunately the camera operator was pretty inexperienced. Lots of dark scenes with bright lights in the scene. The best video was of the wedding party and their colorful gowns. Unfortunately there isn't much of that which I can share. But then came the fruit and cheese table. Evening lighting but colorful enough with a bonus guest getting in the frame at the end. So 7 seconds to compare. Hopefully enough for your needs.

My opinion... I think the color on the JVC looks better than on the AG-1980. Now, is that because my AG-1980 isn't in top shape (bought from TGrant in 2018) or because the JVC (bought off eBay in 2018) plays VHS-C better? I may never know but I might start to comparing my most important tapes for now on.

Both videos were recorded with the same tape and adapter on both the JVC S-HR9800 and Panasonic AG-1980. Into the Datavideo TBC-3000, ATI 600 USB, Lenovo T500 laptop running Windows XP and captured with VirtualDub 1.9.11. Cyberpower 1000VA UPS. Edited to 7 seconds and saved a second time as Lagarith lossless compressed AVI.

I hope this helps!

[dinoman64]

Very interesting!

The colors on the JVC do look much better. Something I noticed immediately though is the JVC has some sort of checkerboard kind of artifact.

It's most obvious on the plate in the bottom left. The Panasonic seems to display this as well but it's much less noticeable.

This might be down to the s-video cables you are using though. Maybe its only less noticeable on the Panasonic because of the poor colors.

The audio on the JVC is certainly quieter, and the Panasonic is louder.

The Panasonic seems a little more clear but I actually prefer the JVC audio somehow, it sounds more natural.

I guess we would have to compare the waveform to see if there's any equalization and noise reduction applied by the Panasonic.

How did playback of the beginning and end of the tape compare between both machines? Those parts typically look worse.

Was there a noticeable difference in the amount of dropouts, glitches, etc. between the two decks throughout the entire tape?

Also, what speed/mode was this tape recorded in?

[lordsmurf]

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Originally Posted by billct97

the JVC C-P6U adapter. The adapter seems pretty high quality for all the bad I've read about these adapters.

Not sure where you read that. The C-P6U is one of the best adapters, period. It's a Matsushita adapter that's rebadged as JVC, Panasonic, and a few other names. (But there are some knock-offs that are flimsy, so beware.)

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This might be down to the s-video cables

99% this.

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The audio on the JVC is certainly quieter, and the Panasonic is louder.
The Panasonic seems a little more clear but I actually prefer the JVC audio somehow, it sounds more natural.

Noting that "accurate" is what matters. Beware boosted video/audio levels. Panasonic can be guilty of boosting.

[timtape]

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Originally Posted by dinoman64

The audio on the JVC is certainly quieter, and the Panasonic is louder.

The Panasonic seems a little more clear but I actually prefer the JVC audio somehow, it sounds more natural.

The two audio captures seem similar to my ears and instruments. But being of a loud recording any VCR borne background noises will be covered up by the wedding guests' loud chatter, in both machines. So this 7 second sample tells us very little about how "low noise" are these two machines. For that we would need an audio recording which is itself very quiet. The OP could upload only the audio of such a much quieter sample.

This issue of VCR audio background noise has been discussed at various times on this forum. Just because a deck is high end in terms of picture quality, doesnt mean its audio playback is also exemplary.

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Also, what speed/mode was this tape recorded in?

Obviously the best person to tell us that is billct97 but if this sample has linear audio, it was likely shot at SP speed because LP linear audio, which was often used on the short VHS-C tapes would not have the high frequency clarity I seem to hear here. LP linear audio is a tough test for a playback deck because as with the LP picture it's a weaker recording and more exposes a machine's own audio limitations. The more low quality the recording, often the harder we have to work to extract the signals cleanly.

[billct97]

Too much to reply to during the work day but let's see if I can hit most of the questions and comments.

Tape was recorded in SP.

I thought I had read the VHS-C adapters (other brands) in general were poor but my comment was how solid this JVC adapter is!

Shame on me for not doing any A/B comparisons of both VCR's before this.

I've also wanted to deploy some audio gear to better manage the audio but have not yet. Question, can putting an amplifier in the audio record path work for adjusting levels or would that risk the video and audio being slightly out of sync?

I thought I solved the herringbone problem when I replaced the TBC 9VDC power and added the UPS. It was significantly better after the PSU was replaced. I will look closer at my S-Video cables (and yes probably remove the JVC S-Video switch box I am using).

Great... now I have a pile of new projects to do before I capture my next tape. It's like going to the doctor for an annual checkup and finding out you have a terminal illness! OK, not quite that bad but before posting this I was blissfully unaware of any problems and now...

[aramkolt]

I'd leave it up to the colorists, but my guess is the AG1980 chroma levels are off to some degree and could be either adjusted in post, or by using a proc amp during capture, but could also be that is more representative of what is stored on the tape, hard to say. Usually I find the chroma levels to be more vibrant on freshly refurbished AG1980's than the JVCs by quite a bit, so I don't know that I'd say the AG1980 is a good representation of them in general.

I do like the JVC VHS-C adapters though and those are what I use in all brands of VCRs myself. I think the bigger issue tends to be how well tapes in adapters track in different machines (rather than picture reproduction) as the rigidity and mechanism itself can play into how well they play.

[billct97]

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Originally Posted by dinoman64

How did playback of the beginning and end of the tape compare between both machines? Those parts typically look worse.

Was there a noticeable difference in the amount of dropouts, glitches, etc. between the two decks throughout the entire tape?

Also, what speed/mode was this tape recorded in?

I wasn't looking specifically at the beginning and end but saw no difference while playing and the color edge to the JVC only when I opened both in 2 instances of VirtualDub to compare frame by frame. No dropouts or glitches either but again I wasn't looking for that other than to watch (on a TV) while capturing and noticed no such problems. Keep in mind this tape is probably as perfect as it gets. The adapter and tape were obviously carefully stored for 30 years and probably played just a few times.

Tape was recorded at SP.

[dinoman64]

Considering my tapes have also been stored well and have only been played ~5 times, some have never been played, I think I should expect similar results then. Obviously the condition of the camcorder when they where recorded is a big factor too.

This has been very helpful though. I'm still curious to how well both machines handle a poorly recorded/damaged tape.

I've gone ahead and purchased a ag-5710 I had my eye on from eBay (I know). It was inexpensive relative to other listings, and it was the only one that was listed as "used" instead of "for parts" so if I get it and after inspection it's totally worn out and junk, I can return it. Seller claims it "accepts and ejects tapes" so that's already a lot better than 90% of what's on eBay. Wish me luck....

Obviously I'll be replacing ALL the caps if the mechanism is in good shape. To some it may be a waste of time, but if it wasn't a VCR, I'd be repairing something else for fun anyway. If it works out I'll have a working unit for less than a quarter of what a "professionally restored" one would cost.

Thanks again to billct97 for the comparison, and everyone else for their input. I'll post an update when I can do some test captures on my own machine. (if it works out)

[BarryTheCrab]

I'll add my 2 cents.
Not too long ago I broke the rules and from EBAY got an absolute new-in-the-box JVC S7800u. P r i s t i n e .
That machine just did about 60 VHS-c using a CP7u and performed without error.
Of course I was using a recommended workflow, but still, I wouldn't spring for a Panny 1980 unless it was an irresistible bargain.

[Gary34]

I know Deter used to advice people to contact him before an eBay buy and then let him talk to the seller then ship it directly to him to avoid further shipping cost. I don’t think eBay is a bad place to buy a Panasonic 1980p from ideally if you contact someone that knows about them first and just plan on it needing a refurb. Buying a cheap 1980p from
eBay seems a lot better than buying one “lightly used” from eBay and the seller wants the moon for it then you still have to refurb it. I don’t think Deter is an option right now.

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Wish me luck....

Good luck.