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babirusacapture3 06-25-2025 12:48 AM

Can ATI TV Wonder USB 2.0 capture 10bit format?
 
As far as I can see it seems like, at least in VirtualDub, to only support 8bit 4:2:2 lossless captures and not 10bit despite having a 12bit ADC. I suppose 12bit probably could not fit in USB 2.0 bandwidth. I thought 10bit might, but maybe not. Or maybe the ATI Wonder 200 chip internally works in 12bits but always only puts out 8 bit final results?

Do the internal cards offer 10bit?

On a side note I wonder if it is better to let some dark signal go below 16bits and some white above 235 for the RAW archival captures so you get a bit more total DR captured even if you'd then HAVE to process everything to fit video levels before playing back. Perhaps it's too risky judge, especially on the high end though even with the VirtualDub histogram and could get one or two color channels clipped by accident? And not worth the risk for a fraction of a stop more DR? Althouhg at 8bits every bit could help were you to ever try to color grade since 8bits leaves you with no margin, anything you do in terms of levels adjusting would be a bit lossy unlike for 10bit editing. Maybe it ends up irrelevant for VHS/SVHS/8/Hi8 anyway though?

lordsmurf 06-25-2025 01:32 AM

You're consumer analog videotapes sources are not even 8-bit depth.

Why the concern?

Tip: Don't measurebate. (ie, "but 12 is bigger!" -- when it's just not relevant)

babirusacapture3 06-25-2025 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordsmurf (Post 103260)
You're consumer analog videotapes sources are not even 8-bit depth.

Why the concern?

Tip: Don't measurebate. (ie, "but 12 is bigger!" -- when it's just not relevant)

OK, yeah just too used to dealing with modern DSLR photos and DSLR digital video and 35mm film scans and stuff.

I was figuring it might not matter for VHS and that even 8 bit you have room to adjust a little with zero impact. OK, so good, nothing to bother about.


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