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yeah.... that's bad....
I am having an issue with my ATI TV wonder 600......
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I have installed the driver from this thread and am trying to use it with VirtualDub. It is working, but the audio appears to be clipping slightly in places and I have been trying to find a way to adjust the volume in a Windows 7 installation. Is there a simple way to adjust the input volume? I have seen instructions for other ATI capture devices using the "Video -> Capture Filter" in VirtualDub but the ATI USB 600 has no option for volume there.
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There's a value hidden in the registry to adjust it, but I never really spent enough time to figure out how it worked.
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Thanks! That registry setting was what I needed. The AC97VolumeLN key wasn't originally present in the registry, but adding it did work. From what I noticed, "0" sets the volume around three times the default volume, and "127" is about one third the default volume.
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Does anybody know where to find the right registry key/directory under Windows 10? I searched in some places, but no luck, must be different compared to Windows 7.
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Also very interested in learning how to do this in windows 10. Tried searching in the registry but no luck. Tried searching for the 4D36.... string as well as any AC97V strings and no success. Anyone else had success or have tricks to find the appropriate registry entry?
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Search your registry for the key "AMDEMOD" and into each directory you find this key in, put the "AC97VolumeLN" key with your desired value (I use 295 decimal, which lowers the volume by roughly 10dB). This does the trick for me and should do the trick for anyone else too. |
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I'm replying here because I was referred to this posting. I tried using the CD that came with the ATI 600 USB and I couldn't get it to be recognized in XP. I also tried the link below from msgohan http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/atta...sb-ati-600-usb
I ran the setup.exe file from that but still the ATI600 wasn't recognized. I then attempted to "update driver" which searched among that same folder from msgohan but it never turned up any drivers that it was looking for. So now I am trying to put together these rar files and can't figure out how to do that either. It's not something I'm familiar with. Editing this post. Apparently 7zip was having a problem unpacking that. Now trying winrar and waiting to see how it goes after cd is burned. -- merged -- OK. Got the iso burned on a CD. Ran xp/setup.exe. XP still wouldn't recognize ATI 600.In attachments one window remained open after software said it was finished installing. The other attachment showed failure when I plugged the ATI 600 in after the install. |
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- Is this a random old XP computer? Not one with a fresh XP install? - Are you sure these are USB2 ports? Not USB1. And I've also read where some USB3 can be weird with USB2 devices -- though extremely uncommon. "Hardware Update Wizard" should not be run at all. Where did that come from? On that Modify/Repair/Remove option, try Repair. Remember: Only AIW requires XP. The 600 USB card will work fine with Vista/7. And even 8/10 will usually work (for a while) before updates bork it. |
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It's a Dell e1705 Inspiron Laptop.I looked at the manual and it has only usb2 ports. It's still running the same XP that it came with. That suits me as if I reinstalled XP there are several programs that might be very difficult to find and reinstall.
Eureka. I went to the burned CD and clicked install/xp. setup. This time I did the advanced setup and avoided setting up Catalyst. It went through (without that window asking if I wanted to modify, remove etc). It said it was finished. I turned off the laptop. It has 2 usb ports on the side and 4 on the back. Previously I had the ATI600 in the port on the side. This time I put it in the back. It went through an install procedure for the ATI600 and didn't show an error and, for the 1st time, when I opened device manager no yellow triangle! Right now the only program I have on the laptop that can capture is Catalyst. It seemed to tax the laptop pretty heavily but could capture the ATI. The last time I tried Virtualdub it really taxed my much more powerful Win10 laptop. I was still trying to find the right configuration last time I used it. So if someone could point me to the best version and capture settings for this XP laptop that would be appreciated. Also, I did plug the ATI 600 into the win10 yesterday as I was floundering around trying to make something work and it didn't automatically install correctly. It said it finished automatically installing but in device manager it showed an error. If it's possible to use it on the win10 PC that would be great as it's much more powerful. I stopped the windows updates last year and so far they haven't forced me to resume them. So a tip on how to install it on Win10 also much appreciated. PS: Oh no, after restarting now the ATI600 has the yellow triangle again in device manager. I guess I'll try the setup again.... ...Did the setup and also choose "repair" . restarted and the yellow triangle is gone. Not sure what happened there? So if I could get some tips on the right Vdub for XP and possible Win10 install that would be a big help. Thanks -- merged -- I downloaded Vdub 1.10.4. It looked like it was capturing but when I played the file there was no video and the audio was sped up. This is what the videos properties were (in attachment). I guess I've got a lot of adjusting to do in Vdub. -- merged -- I guess getting vdub to work is getting off the subject so I'll start another topic on that. I'd still appreciate some tips on trying to get the ATI 600 to be recognized in win10. Thanks -- merged -- ATI600 has the yellow triangle again in device manager. I'll try the setup again. I wonder why it won't stay recognized? I'm not doing anything else with this laptop besides this. |
I really have no idea what you're doing. :question:
For example, what does a screen cap of "smplayer" have to do with anything? For VirtualDub, you need to read posts in the forum. v1.10.x is not suggested, the v1.9.x linked is. And then Preview mode is required, and further tweaks may be needed (following sanlyn's guide here in the forum -- but also reading the entire thread, including my comments). ATI 600 USB on Win10 can be fiddly, as there is no single OS of "Win10". There are many versions of Win10, and some will outright refuse to install capture cards. Some cards are more resilient than others, but the 600 USB isn't one. Ironically, the 600 USB clones are, using the generic eMPIA drivers. |
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OK. I started working my way through sanlyns guide. A fair amount of the discussion on this thread is over my head but I'm trying to get the settings going. Thanks |
@Ohank, your off-topic VirtualDub conversation was moved here: http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vide...ati-600-a.html
Continue VirtualDub discussion there. |
ATI600 recognized but on restart have to run CD again
I went through this procedure 3 times at the start then it went 2 times without needing to reinstall. Today it's again unrecognized. I still haven't managed a usable capture yet but that seems to be between me and Vdub but I'd like to figure out if it's possible to keep it recognized without reinstalling (repairing) from the CD. Thanks.
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It is common with Win10, some Win8 reports, but that's it. |
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I restarted once and so far the ATI600 is recognized. So we'll see. Now to see if I can capture something. -- merged -- Maybe made some progress on this today. BTW uninstalling Seagate Disc Utulity didn't help. Today though the ATI 600 was again not recognized. I thought to try unplugging it and plugging in again. This time I got the message "The ATI 600is a high speed usb device and will function at a reduced speed when plugged into a non-HI-SPEED port. " Then it said I should click the message to see the ports. I couldn't make heads or tails out of the diagram that came up but I just started plugging it into different USB ports. There are 4 usb ports on the back and two on the side. The ATI600 was originally in one of the 2 rows of two on the back. I tried it on the side usb ports but still unrecognized in device manager. Then I plugged it into the other row of two on the back and it was recognized. I'm attaching the picture of what I saw before replugging. I was still looking at this window after replugging but didn't see it change but the ATI 600 was recognized so I'll keep my fingers crossed I won't have to reinstall. |
You have OS and/or USB port issues. Seen that before.
Every so often, my dev system balks (where I test cards), must reboot it. Then it sorts itself. One other possible problem is too many USB devices in the registry. Clean up your system with USBDeview : https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usb_devices_view.html. After I do that, everything is fine. My dev/test system has so many USB in/outs that it's a whore. :laugh: Not all ports are equal. The problem pair may be off-board ports. I know lots of desktop cases have lousy ports compared to the motherboard ports. |
Good to know about that USBDeview. I'm just looking at my C drive on the XP Laptop trying to figure out how to make room. I've had a program called Treesize Professional which shows how big files and folders are. Some of the biggest are pretty technical stuff in documents. Even in the temp file I get lots of messages saying it can't delete because it's being used by another person or program. When I got Defragger there was a mention of a program to clean out unnecessary stuff called CC Cleaner. Any tips on if that's an OK program or one like it. Thanks
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After a bit of digging I found that the driver doesn't work if Windows 10 is in hypervisor mode. Hypervisor mode can be checked if it's enabled by typing "systeminfo" in a command line/PowerShell window, it's enabled if it says in the end
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- Windows feature "Hyper-V Hypervisor" is turned on. It's ONLY that, not the whole "Hyper-V" category, e.g. the PS module and the required services for e.g. Optimize-VHD cmdlet to work don't put Windows in hypervisor mode - Core isolation/HVCI security feature is enabled - "Virtual Machine Platform" Windows feature is enabled, which is required for WSL2 to work, ie no WSL2 and ATI 600 USB driver can work at the same time So the driver is compatible even with the latest Windows 10 21H1 (19043) but not if Windows is in Hypervisor mode, possibly the same applying to older Windows versions too |
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I have a Windows 10 LTSC 2019 (based on 1809) install that I do my captures on and it works well, tested very extensively :laugh: Other than a different partition install which would be the easiest, I have it on a vhdx that I added to the boot menu to have it boot directly from a ~30GB file on my SSDs. It's pretty complicated to do and I recommend just a different partition install but I'll leave the links that explain how it can be done if anyone wants to try Install Windows to vhdx https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...iew=windows-11 follow until Step 2, others are not needed. install.wim file is located on the sources directory on the LTSC 2019 iso (and any Windows 10 iso). After Windows is installed on the vhdx it can be added to the boot menu like this https://www.elevenforum.com/t/native...disk-vhdx.611/ |
I suppose its "Game Over" for all newer systems after the 1803 Windows 10 version or so?
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Windows 10 LTSC 2019 has support until 2029 https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/li...rise-ltsc-2019 so it's alright, it's not like you're using an old or unsupported OS to do captures. Careful that regular Windows 10 1809 has long ended support in 2021 (Home/Pro in 2020 but can be converted on a live OS to Enterprise easily), it's a different product https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/li...-and-education |
Thank you so much for clarification!
Sad news, but understandable. nothing lasts forever. Well its about time to install XP or W7 on some kind of capturing mini PC maybe for me! :) |
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