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Jpass992 10-06-2012 09:32 AM

JVC GF S1000HU S/M and cables
 
I want to work on converting some old family tapes on SVHS and I still have the original camcorder. However, I have a few questions. First of all, does anyone have the service manual for this camcorder? I can't seem to find the audio oiutput cables for it, and I was wondering if someone had the P/N for it. I've checked both in the manual for the camcorder and the JVC site, and I haven't found it at all. Also, before I do this, just out of curiousity, if one still have the original camcorder for their tapes, is it best to convert it using that camcorder?

NJRoadfan 10-06-2012 11:55 AM

Does it have a round DIN style connector for the A/V out? I always thought those were kinda standard. That camcorder is OLD, one of the first SVHS models. I'd try the tapes in a modern JVC first, SP camcorder recordings usually track without a problem.

juhok 10-06-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jpass992 (Post 23305)
Also, before I do this, just out of curiousity, if one still have the original camcorder for their tapes, is it best to convert it using that camcorder?

This is a myth (there are exceptions, like f--ed up tracking or some such, but in general - a myth).

volksjager 10-06-2012 03:22 PM

why even use a camcorder at all??

ditch the relic cam and get an Panny AG-1970 or AG-1980 and a JVC VHS-C adapter

NJRoadfan 10-06-2012 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by volksjager (Post 23311)
why even use a camcorder at all?? ditch the relic cam and get an Panny AG-1970 or AG-1980 and a JVC VHS-C adapter

Its a full size tape camcorder, no adapters needed.

volksjager 10-06-2012 06:29 PM

thats more reason not to use the cam
that means you can use a 7000 or 9000 series JVC...even better

admin 10-10-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by juhok (Post 23308)
This is a myth (there are exceptions, like f--ed up tracking or some such, but in general - a myth).

Just to confirm: This is a myth. :salute:

Better video playback hardware easily outperforms original consumer equipment, even when it was new an in peak performance.
These days, you're probably looking at some old techno-monster more liable to eat your tapes that play them.

The only time an "original" recorder looks best is when it was misaligned. The tapes therefore don't play well anywhere else. In those cases, either use the original machine -- hoping it wasn't later fixed, or didn't go further out of alignment specs. Or you have to misalign/"break" a camera or VCR to match the screwed-up tapes. That isn't a fun process, and takes a lot of experimentation and patience.

Jpass992 10-10-2012 04:13 PM

Yes, it does use these kind of pin connectors. I'll be honest.... I've gone through alot of JVC machines. The newer ones you describe I'm not the biggest fan of. I have the JVC SR V101US and sometimes I hear a hiss in the audio that I don't here in my older machines aka JVC HR S6900U, JVC HR S8000U. Also, as I recall, the build of the later machines is inferior to that of the older machines. Also, I do have a Panasonic AG 5710, which is a AG 1980 clone. Believe it or not, the camcorder has never been broken. Used by my Dad from 1989 (I think) up until 2001. Belive it or no, the thing has never broken down, so its never been aligned. (now keeping my fingers crossed it doesn't break cause I said that :)) Anyway, anybody got a clue where I could find these cables?

volksjager 10-10-2012 04:36 PM

the SR-V101US is kinda crappy - the last of the line and they really cheaped out.
try a 7600 ,9600 or 9800

the AG-5710 is great if it doesnt have cap issues

i wouldnt even consider using that old cam

NJRoadfan 10-10-2012 05:28 PM

According to the photos I have found of that camcorder, it featured Hi-Fi audio which can have tracking issues. Have you tried switching to the linear track? The Hi-Fi track should have no hiss if tracking properly, the noise levels should be much lower then the linear track.

admin 10-10-2012 05:50 PM

You may have to capture audio on one VCR in one pass. And then capture the video from another VCR on another pass.
Then merge. (Use Womble MPEG Video Wizard.)

Been there, done that. I should sell t-shirts. :p

Jpass992 10-10-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NJRoadfan (Post 23396)
According to the photos I have found of that camcorder, it featured Hi-Fi audio which can have tracking issues. Have you tried switching to the linear track? The Hi-Fi track should have no hiss if tracking properly, the noise levels should be much lower then the linear track.

The camcorder doesn't have the problem. It's the JVC SR V101US we're talking about. It's sitting in my room awaiting repair as its out of alignment. It's got the original box and everything too.

Jpass992 10-10-2012 06:35 PM

Even when I got the machine from B&H five years ago, the machine still had that issue with the audio. Even the newer HM DT100U which uses some of the same parts as those cheaper SVHS machines has the same issue too.

NJRoadfan 10-10-2012 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jpass992 (Post 23400)
The camcorder doesn't have the problem. It's the JVC SR V101US we're talking about. It's sitting in my room awaiting repair as its out of alignment. It's got the original box and everything too.

I was referring to the SR-V101US. My own HR-S7800U has its share of tracking issues with Hi-Fi tapes. My DVHS and Panasonic AG-1980 do a much better job at it.


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