What are you doing here though? I'm not really seeing any tangible suggestions.
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Basically all anyone has said is "you'll need to break the VCR to match the tape, but don't do that", which isn't very helpful.
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Second: Breaking VCR in a meaningful way to perform diagnostics requires some understanding of a VHS VCR's internals and technician skills. And likely access to the service manual for the VCR and test equipment, if one hopes to restore the VCR it to proper alignment. Lacking these one will likely end up with nothing but a broken VCR and possibly a tape that is damaged further. And breaking the VCR will not likely recover the HiFI tracks. If the audio that should be on the tape is important, and you do not have the skill set to accomplish the above, then your options are to find someone who does or forget it. There has also be some brief discussion of an approach to reconstruct meaningful (though not original) audio, and an alternative that might produce possibly understandable but ugly audio. So the bottom line is it is your VCR, a Sports Club's tape that is in your custody, and your risk. |
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If it was related to my VCR, the issue wold go away if I changed VCR and remain present if I changed tapes. Neither is the case.
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I have no clue what you are talking about, maybe you are using a translator. But the issue won't go away by doing nothing, Ever heard of process of elimination?
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The problem is related to the original recording, probably not your VCRs. It could be a problem with the original recording, the VCR that made your copy, or the VCR settings used when the copy was made, or the connection methods used to connect the audio to the copy VCR. There is no way to tell from the information you have provided so far.
There may be a VCR somewhere that can read the apparently weak Hi-Fi track that your VCR cannot read reliably. "Braking" a VCR linear track head alignment is a way to test if there is recoverable audio in the linear track. A forensic lab that works on video tapes could do this for you, but it may cost dearly, with no assurance of success. They can't recover what isn't recoverable. The issue may well be that koberulz is in over his head with respect to technologies involved; i.e., does not understand the basics of a VCR or VHS recordings beyond typical consumer knowledge. I suspect the only suggestion he might be able to implement is to turn the tape over to a qualified service provider, but only if the forum were to point him to one. However, I suspect that following that advice, if provided, would be unlikely. Perhaps, like some others we know of he just wants to exchange posts, carry on a dialogue with someone, in this COVID-19 hunker-down, social distancing era. His thing is VHS audio, not optical media. |
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Yes, clearly the problem is that I'm too stupid. You've cracked the case! |
I'm just not sure what else it could be. My inclination is a (signal) record-time issue. Maybe some odd recording method, but unlikely. The last possibility is hardware, really the only thing to attempt, but I'm not convinced that's it.
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I didn't say "stupid" (that was your word, not mine). What I said is that it requires certain knowledge and skills that you apparently have not yet developed. Your choices are to either develop the required knowledge and skills, have someone else diagnose and perhaps recover the tape for you, abandon the project, or continue to stew about it with no results.
Until some new information is presented I have nothing more to add to this thread. |
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Try doing a search of this forum on "hi-fi audio tracking". Enter that in the box above the "Google Custom Search" text. There are a lot of interesting threads that discuss audio tracking problems and possible solutions including trying different VCR's, alignment adjustment (with lots of caveats so read up on this well before attempting it), etc. BW |
It's been through four or five different VCRs, so that's definitely not the issue. I'll have to look through the other things.
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Coming late to this. I think the OP said when the HiFi track worked there was audio only on the left channel.The left channel in linear is at the very top edge of the tape. The heads on the VCR's used may be just missing this but would read the right channel if it was there.
Alternatively perhaps this tape has a crease at the top edge, running right through the tape, from previous tape damage, so it no longer contacts the head intimately on that top left track. Dont laugh but sometimes we set up a Q Tip to gently press the creased tape against the head to restore contact. For experts in tape transfer, "breaking" is a regular day to day thing, not a last ditch attempt. So adjusting head azimuth to the tape is done on every single tape for best sound. Adjusting head height is not as common but is also done, but in both cases you need to know what you are doing, of course. I just noticed that the OP and I appear to live in the same city. I'd assumed they were in the US. Happy to help if needed. |
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