lordsmurf |
11-12-2020 07:26 AM |
This was a review from 15 years ago:
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I have just downloaded the DVI test files [with TBC on and off] I have to say there was very little difference between the two. Image edges were sharper but the TBC missed loads of flickers and glitches, and those are the artifacts that are most important to get rid of.
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It's another device made for non-consumer sources, TBC is weak based on past posts.
I vaguely remember trying this unit out 10 years ago, after hunting it for years, and quickly sold it back off for what I paid for it.
It was often compared to the ADVC-300 "TBC" (which is laughably so weak as to do near-nothing), and often found to be comparable line-wise. But again, it was really source dependent.
It's been commmented on many times at this sites, VH, and some others, over the past 20 years. Never great, never recommended.
From latreche34 here:
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Originally Posted by latreche34
(Post 41298)
Keep in mind that the best TBC is the one right inside your VCR, I don't see a lot of difference between VMC-1 and ADVC-300 TBC performance, The screen shots show that TBC is indeed working on the ADVC-300 but not as good as VMC-1 and that's one of the raisons why I went for the Roland VMC-1 few years back.
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Our own msgohan wrote this 5 years ago: https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/...e2#post2349810
Specifically read this:
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Both units contain the MN673744 chip, so I guess Canopus failed to use it appropriately. I don't buy the German reviewer's explanation that the chip was secretly found to be faulty and possibly fixed, unless there are complaints about their DVD recorders from the same time period. [EDIT: Reading further into his review, I see he actually mentions the VMC-1 and says it suffers from "similar symptoms." Confusing.]
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The "faulty" part was indeed Canopus marketing BS of yore (and Canopus of that era has been defunct for over a decade, the brand is owned by Grass Valley now), but both units were often compared.
NOTE: Just be careful reading that whole VH thread. This quote, for example, was nonsense.
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At the German doom9 forum we have discussed and actually tested the whole TBC topic to death. The essence is, Panasonic DMR-ES and DMR-EH DVD/HDD recorders have excellent jitter stabilizing (TBC) capabilities – actually completely unmatched by all "real" standalone TBC boxes we tested, which are, in my opinion, overrated obsolete pieces of hardware from the 90's anyway
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Line TBC is not framesync TBC. :screwy: :rolleyes:
The ES10/15 has strong line abilities, but also crippled by Macrovision detection (which of course picks up both the artificial anti-copy and natural errors). I like how he called it "(TBC) capabilities" which is 2000s way of stating "NOT ACTUALLY A TBC".
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