Thin, Sporadic Black Lines on Video-Tape Damage?
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This is actually something I'd wondered for a while. On certain recordings, especially those with large, solid areas of color (such as cartoons or video games), there are sporadic black lines that pop up. They don't move, but flicker onscreen just barely long enough to be noticed. They're removed when the video is denoised or put through a chroma NR filter. Is this physical tape damage (ie: from pausing the tape too long, rough handling, or just a bad tape or recording), or is it from the intensity of the color being too much for the tape to record (it really only happens on strong reds, and occasionally with greens and blues). They don't appear to cause timebase errors like with regular oxide damage (you know, like the sharp gray line and a distorted black and white image, or the rolling block of static).
Included is an example of one of the spots, a filtered video showing how they are mostly removed after noise reduction filter were applied, and an image of what I know to be physical tape damage (it was an EP recording at the end of a cheap tape. Recipe for disaster, much?). Again, I'm going with the SWAT Kats tapes since I can sacrifice them in a pinch, and my more valuable tapes (such as videos of family) don't exhibit that many flaws (I've got exactly 3 family recordings on VHS, all in good condition, since my parents switched to DV tape for camcorders in the '90s, and weren't the types of parents who videotaped their children 24/7 and watched the recordings repeatedly, so we don't have stacks of damaged family VHS's like some others do, just a bunch of TV recordings :cool:). That's another matter for another thread :rolleyes: |
The errors are quite common for VHS in reds and blues (outdoor sky shots in particular). I have several tapes that exhibit it, particularly near the beginning and end of the tape. Reds are a big weakness with VHS, they always seem to bleed and flutter around. Its very noticeable on home movie tapes too. It seems to be a minor versions of this type of tape damage (only affects chroma) that I brought up in a past thread: http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vide...ase-error.html
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Well, what makes it different is that the error is always in that same spot. I've always chalked it up to too much color info, damage, or just bad tapes. There's occasionally a timebase error, but mostly, it's just a thin dark spot.
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It's often a mix of physical or signal damage. I've never found a way to correct this, not even with advanced filter work in Avisynth. Generally speaking, those "chroma crinkle" errors (my own term used here) are accompanied by audio fuzz/buzz in the HiFi track. Sometimes, at best, you can hide it with aggressive chroma NR software filters. Ideally, you want to correct in hardware first, which it doesn't appear that you're doing? (There are other chroma errors present that make it look like a non-TBC/non-SVHS deck is being used.) Second image: This is physical tape damage. You can't fix this. At best, you can try to hide it with creative restoration or editing techniques. Also: The audio on your capture is distorted very badly. The gain is way, way above where it should be. |
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And yeah, I regret to say I'm using a consumer deck (late '90s Sony Hifi deck) for conversions. I need to upgrade to an AG-1980 stat, I know, but on my high-school freshman budget, no dice :( For what it is, it's OK. Tracks fairly well, and doesn't over-sharpen the video. My biggest complaint is the fact that when the tracking is adjusted, the display is brought up, and as I don't have the remote, I have no way to turn it off. Really f'ing annoying. I'm looking into better machines, and a hardware TBC, as luma shifting is my biggest enemy (though fixable with software, if done right). Quote:
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Also, I don't know if this is common knowledge or not, but it seems that the hiss level (~21 dB) is the same on VHS recordings with linear audio, regardless of speed. SP hiss is a higher frequency then EP hiss, though. Here's a different example of the error I'm talking about, without any filtering. This comes from the same recording as the 2nd image, and be warned when I say it sounds pretty ugly. |
Clipping doesn't always reveal distortion. It's just one way that distortion can be detected. There's plenty of ways to distort audio and still stay within normal (albeit high/loud) levels boundaries. It helps when you're listening on studio-quality reference speakers, too, and not consumer TV sets or computers, which can hide distortion due to the fact that those devices are themselves distorting (and you've become accustomed to hearing it).
Aside from mild signal jitter and chroma noise that could be fixed with an internal TBC, there's not much else that can be done here. If you're just looking for an explanation, it's simple: VHS is color-under, and chroma flaws are commonplace. These streaks you're seeing are one of the ways in which color errors present themselves in the VHS format. I don't recall seeing these color-burst streaks on any other format. You do get bursts like this on S-VHS, but it's black/white noise, and never in color. Some advanced filtering in Avisynth could help hide it, but those same filters have consequences. Fixing that split-second of noise may harm 10 seconds of non-noise video. The professional alternative it to manually repaint the frames, dupe frames, or a mix thereof -- doing whichever maintains the integrity of the image. |
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