Advice: Archiving 8mm, VHS, MiniDV tapes (long-term project)
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I have been having a clear out and come across various VHS-C ( Mid 80's to Mid 90's ), VHS ( 90's ) and Mini DV ( Very late 90's / Early 00's ) tapes that haven't seen light of day for years. There is in the region of 100 tapes in total to process, but no doubt that is likely to double before project is finished and everything has been archived. As a result i am leaning towards doing the transfer and processing myself as it probably the only cost effective option open to myself My main problem at this stage i have long since misplaced or thrown out any device that is capable of playing any of tthe tapes, therefore i need to acquire the relevant equipment before i can start the transfer from the tapes to PC. Shopping list for project is as follows
Budget in mind is £200/£300 however it can be stretched in reason. Finally PC spec is I5, 32gb Ram, Windows 10 and has spare PCI / PCI E slots and USB 3 connections. Look forward to your response and thank you in advance. Kind Regards Alex. |
Hello, and welcome to digitalfaq.
I suggest that you can pick up many other ideas and sources from browsing the last two weeks or so of forum subjects, where the same or similar question has been covered in detail over three or four threads. I suspect you might have overlooked some recent posts and guides, or you wouldn't have made this estimate: Quote:
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Capture cards: there are really only two reasons for using a PC capture card or USB device. The primary reason is for capturing analog sources to losslessly compressed media for cleanup, restoration, edits, high quality encoding, authoring, and special processing for internet posts. The second reason would be to use an MPEG2 or h264 device for capture directly to capture-time lossy formats and authoring/burning to disc. Note that you would not use the second method for restoration or correction work, as MPEG and h.264 are final delivery formats, not edit formats, and require smart-rendering applications for simple cut-and-join work. Pick a genuinely excellent capture device from this ATI legacy series for Windows XP machines: http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vide...html#post13441 or newer alternatives from these makers, available in the UK & Europe: - Hauppauge 610 USB2 capture stick (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hauppauge-0.../dp/B003Q2ZA36) - Diamond Multimedia VC500 USB (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Diamond-Mul...mputers&ie=UTF) - The ATI 600 TV Wonder USB 2, if you can find one. Software: For simple edits you can use anything you want, but if you want any restoration or corrective work you'll need at least Avisynth and/or VirtualDub. Otherwise you can get any 100-quid or less NLE you want from Adobe or Corel (I would not advise buggy Cyberlink or Nero for anything. Period). The average NLE will let you put a DVD or internet file together with halfway passable encoding, but they are not for proper restoration or multi-format conversion (and don't let them tell you they are!). Quote:
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A good player and line-level tbc can fix many problems at capture time. And there are two types of TBC required for proper capture from analog sources: (A) A line-level tbc corrects scanline timing errors within individual frames and prevents top-border flagging, warped borders, wiggles and notches in vertical lines, and other scanline problems. (B) Frame-level tbc's correct timing signals from frame to frame, preventing dropped and duplicate frames, maintaining audio sync, and preventing frame jitter and other top-border distortion problems. Scanline sync errors appear as bent, warped, or notched verticals, and/or bent or notched side borders, etc. A common but rather mild example of line "wiggles" produced by typical scanline errors is here: http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/3...=1#post1882662. More severe examples were posted in an earlier thread. Below are links to 2 samples of scanline and frame timing errors. The "bad" tape sample was played with a non-tbc VCR. While the bad demo looks like a severe case, it's not as uncommon as you'd think. This sort of top-border flagging and frame slippage happens often with old tapes. Some tapes will play without this severity, some won't. - A1_Sample2_bad.mpg is the original capture encoded to MPEG, with frame size slightly reduced to prevent TV overscan from hiding some of the problems. http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/atta...sample2_badmpg - B1_Sample2_fix.mpg is the tape played with a line-level tbc pass-thru device and an external frame-level tbc. The "fixed" sample shown in the link below is a first-stage test repair with only basic denoising, which was improved later with a better VCR but here addressing only specific issues. The tape is no longer available. http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/atta...sample2_fixmpg Whatever your choices, you haven’t told us what you want for final output, video sharing, formats, archiving goals, etc. Much depends on your expectations and how much you're willing to put into a project. |
For 100+ tapes, yes, it can be more effective to DIY. Especially in Europe, where less quality services exist.
Standard advice: - good VCR with internal TBC for VHS/VHS-C (Panasonic best for -C) - good MiniDV camera, and most are good - good external TBC - good capture card, preferably dedicated offline system (not same one used for internet/etc) 8mm was in title, but not mentioned in thread? And you probably mean Video8 or Hi8, the Sony format for 8mm analog tape. Or did you mean Digital8, which is DV on Video8 tape? The budget for DIY is about $1k (about £750), but you can always resell items when done with the project. Many hold value. |
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