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fast_busy 06-25-2002 04:07 PM

Capture using Firewire adapter
 
I have a Sony DCR-PC110 with a firewire connector that I would like to use as a thru pass to analog video coming from my satellite receiver.

That video source I would like to capture using the firewire adapter on my laptop directly to my hard drive.

Then I guess I can burn that as a kvcd or something.

I'm fairly new to all this and I would like someone to guide me through as far as letting me know what typpe of soft is suitable to do this and what adapter cards, etc.

thx and hope 2 hear from u soon...

kwag 06-26-2002 03:14 PM

Re: Capture using Firewire adapter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fast_busy
I have a Sony DCR-PC110 with a firewire connector that I would like to use as a thru pass to analog video coming from my satellite receiver.

That video source I would like to capture using the firewire adapter on my laptop directly to my hard drive.

Then I guess I can burn that as a kvcd or something.

I'm fairly new to all this and I would like someone to guide me through as far as letting me know what typpe of soft is suitable to do this and what adapter cards, etc.

thx and hope 2 hear from u soon...

I believe you can encode the captured DV file directly with TMPEG. I can't recommend a capturing software for your camera, because I don't have a Digital camera. What I can tell you is that if you want to encode the captured file with a KVCD template, you'll have to change the frame rate in the template to 29.97. You also have to de-interlace your source. That can be done also with TMPEG's built-in de-interlace functions.

kwag

Scav 06-27-2002 07:31 AM

I have a Sony digicam and a Sony Viao desktop with firewire built in. I use the DVGate capturing software that came with the Viao and it works pretty well. Premiere ($$) will also recognize the firewire port and allow me to capture.
However, both apps are very limited as to what compression codec I can use when capturing. DVGate will only use the Sony DV codec (what a surprise.) I can't remember which codecs Premiere allows, but I seem to remember it was restrictive. I've been wrestling with a new WinTV Go card to hopefully expand my codec choices. I was also getting worried about wear-and-tear on the camcorder, what with constantly plugging and unplugging cables.

racer 09-13-2002 01:35 AM

I use a Sony DV8 cam as a pass through. Connected standard dvd player to cam to firewire and capture with Windows Movie maker (better results than Ulead). Then use kvcdx3 and encode in tmpenc. Outstanding results! Been playing around with the settings and you must IVTC when using cam as pass through otherwise very jerky. kwag your are the man! :D

kwag 09-13-2002 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racer
I use a Sony DV8 cam as a pass through. Connected standard dvd player to cam to firewire and capture with Windows Movie maker (better results than Ulead). Then use kvcdx3 and encode in tmpenc. Outstanding results! Been playing around with the settings and you must IVTC when using cam as pass through otherwise very jerky. kwag your are the man! :D

Thanks racer! :D
Have you tried to open your captured file with FitCD, and then edit the script to add Telecide() and Decimate() :?:
This will do IVTC as you frameserve to TMPEG. No need to use TMPEG's internal IVTC, which is very slow.

-kwag

syk2c11 09-13-2002 08:57 PM

Having mentioned capture from DV, I have a SONY PC-120E (PAL), can I IVTC in the way as suggested by Kwag, i.e. using FitCD with Telecide() and Decimate() ?

The way that I have been doing DV is that capture DV footage via IEEE-1394 with Premiere, edited by Premiere, frameserve to Tmpeg, encoded WITHOUT de-interlacing, but I do NOT have combing effect, I don't know why. The only problem is that when the picture is panning, it just has some sort of "ghosting" effect. I sware I did not de-interlaced it in Tmpeg. Can I kill this problem by IVTC?

racer 09-14-2002 05:12 AM

kwag-

I have looked at FitCD and not really sure what to do. How do I go about performing your recommendation on IVTC? I am having great results when using TMPEG to IVTC. I agree it is very slow, but haven't spent the time with FitCD to figure it out. :wink:

Did do some sample comparisions with captured avi's.
-With kvcdx3 (no changes) was averaging 16 mb/min
-With kvcdx3 (Cq_vbr at 20 and NR selected) was averaging 14 mb/min - long encoding time however
-With kvcdx3 (CQ_VBR at 17 no NR) was averaging about 13 mb/min

All in all every encode was awesome! :D I watch all dvds on Panasonic RV32 on a Sony Trinitron set and cannot see a difference from the original DVD. :P

One thing with the pass through feature is that the video recorded to the HD at 29.97 fps and is interlaced. You MUST IVTC to get the great quality and NOT deinterlace.

If you can give me some pointers on the FitCD approach kwag, would greatly appreciate it! :wink:

-racer

Lula1 09-25-2002 04:51 PM

Hi guys.
I am bit confused.
If I capture from Mini-DV should I also IVTC ( or only IVTC ).
I read that instead, I should Deinterlace.

For both jobs ( Deinterlace and IVTC ) I would like to first use only TMPGEnc. Could you point the settings for each one, on TMPGEnc ?

Afterwards I will try it using Avisynth .

Thank's


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