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bigggt 07-30-2004 04:56 PM

Could someone post a link to a guide for dvd rebuilder ,i know i have looked and there are a lot but i want a good one

i would like to help test but i have no idea how to use dvd rebuilder yet :wink:

thanx

Dialhot 07-30-2004 06:52 PM

Did oyu even try to open it ? It is really simple to use.

bigggt 07-30-2004 07:30 PM

Phil i have it all setup ,i just was confused about all the RB-OPt stuff but i think i got it now :D

I just like following guides to make sure i do it right :D

Dialhot 07-30-2004 07:33 PM

Following guides is often a way to do as bad as the guide's author did.
"Guide" does not means "lesson" nor "bible".

bigggt 07-30-2004 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil
Following guides is often a way to do as bad as the guide's author did.
"Guide" does not means "lesson" nor "bible".

Point taken :)

SansGrip 07-30-2004 09:09 PM

DVD-RB itself is pretty simple, once you get the options set up right.

First, go to Options -> Setup. Find the EclCCE executable and select it in "Path to CCE SP (New)" (or "Path to CCE SP 2.50" ifyou're using 2.50, or "Path to CCE Basic" if you're using CCE Basic). You shouldn't need to choose paths to MPEG2DEC3DG or DECOMB.DLL if you have them in your plugins directory. I also check "Run encodes minimized." Finally, under "Audio to remove," do a "check all" and then uncheck the languages you want to keep by default, and do the same with subpictures (though I tend to keep all subs, they rarely take up more than a few megs).

Leave Options -> AVS Options alone, the defaults are fine.

In Options -> CCE Options, choose your CCE version. Do not choose "One Pass VBR (w/analysis)," since this will use DVD-RB's built-in prediction and you won't be able to use the Notch matrix or any other custom CCE parameters.

In Mode, ensure "CCE Mode" is checked. Also check "Verbose Status Window" and "Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates". Uncheck everything else in that menu.

That's it!

To do a movie, choose the source path (either the original VIDEO_TS from DVD Decrypter, or the directory created by DvdReMake or whatever) and the working path (this should be an empty directory, it'll be used for temporary files and the resulting output). Hit Prepare.

Now run RB-Opt. Figure out which VOB IDs correspond to the movie and join them together. Do the same for extras. Then, for each collection of VOB IDs, go to the CCE settings dialog and set 8-bit DC precision, 15 frames per GOP, and choose a "Custom" matrix. Select your Notch matrix, which is a text file in the CCE matrix format (each line starts with a tab, 8 fields per line, etc.). Now hit the "OPV Prediction" button and choose your parameters. (Here's where the testing comes in...)

When the prediction is done, close RB-Opt and hit the Encode button in DVD-RB. Wait hours. Hit the Rebuild button. Check the size of the final encode. Celebrate or punch a wall depending on the result ;).

bigggt 07-31-2004 08:44 AM

Thanx SansGrip fpr the detailed help but a few questions

Now remember i'm a little slow :D

Quote:

Figure out which VOB IDs correspond to the movie and join them together
How do i do this

Quote:

and choose a "Custom" matrix. Select your Notch matrix
I can not see anywhere to choose this

Thanx for your patience

SansGrip 07-31-2004 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigggt
Quote:

Figure out which VOB IDs correspond to the movie and join them together
How do i do this

In RB-Opt first go to "Select MPlayer" and choose which video player you want to use to view AVSs. Then you can use the "view first cell" button to view the AVS for the first cell of each VOB ID. Do this for each and you'll quickly identify which VOB IDs contain the movie, which contain extras, etc.

Click on the first VOB ID for the movie and hit the VOB-ID Link button. This will bring up another dialog in which you can select the VOB IDs that are part of the movie. It will then link them together (can't go into more detail here right now because my PC is still out of action following a registry corruption).

Repeat this for the VOB-IDs for the extras too.

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and choose a "Custom" matrix. Select your Notch matrix
I can not see anywhere to choose this
In the CCE Settings dialog there is a dropdown list to choose your matrix. Go to "Custom" and a file open dialog will appear. Find your Notch matrix text file (in CCE format) and hit Open. It'll now show "Custom" in the dropdown list.

bigggt 07-31-2004 10:25 AM

I was hoping you didn't answer yet because i found a problem

I know how to and have done the CCE setup but i tried to just click Encode in dvd rebuilder but it keeps saying no CCE path has been set but it is

The only path i have set in options is the cce(new)and i have it set to the EclCee but nothing else do i need to set anything else

i use CCE with DIKO no problem

SansGrip 07-31-2004 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigggt
I know how to and have done the CCE setup but i tried to just click Encode in dvd rebuilder but it keeps saying no CCE path has been set but it is

Hmmm. Strange. Are you sure you selected the correct version of CCE in Options -> CCE Options? Make sure you choose CCE SP (v2.66+) and not CCE Basic (v2.67+).

Dialhot 07-31-2004 10:40 AM

You have to give the path like I did : enter the path to cce (eclcce acutally) in all the lines. I think the correct one is "ccesp" but to be sure I put it everywhere :-)

bigggt 07-31-2004 11:01 AM

thanx guys

bazzy2004 07-31-2004 11:31 AM

ok.. sorry if im buggin u with this.. but please help

ok, i use ur tool, works fine.. gr8.. for the 2000mb size, then i use it again, for the same size... it works fine again... now i got 2 dvd folders Audio_ts and Video_ts

now if i want both to be put on 1 dvd, i need to use authoring program.. i understand tht, i also need to have a VMG Menu, understand that too.. but 1 thing i do not understand.. which authoring programme supports this?

importing of vobs.. :?:
any answers, ideas, or thoughts r gr8...

Also, are there tools that do this or something, i heard of re-authorist and scenerist, but am not sure. i would really like to kno before investing into such a authoring software...

thanx in advance

Bazzy

bigggt 07-31-2004 11:56 AM

Can someone please post the kvcd notch matrix in the format i need because i have tried all kinds and can't get it

thanx

Dialhot 07-31-2004 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigggt
Can someone please post the kvcd notch matrix in the format i need because i have tried all kinds and can't get it

thanx

Slow you said ? ;-)
Just copy/paste this (be carrefull to keep the tab in begining of lines)
Code:

        8 9 12 22 26 27 29 34
        9 10 14 26 27 29 34 37
        12 14 18 27 29 34 37 38
        22 26 27 31 36 37 38 40
        26 27 29 36 39 38 40 48
        27 29 34 37 38 40 48 58
        29 34 37 38 40 48 58 69
        34 37 38 40 48 58 69 79
        16 18 20 22 24 26 28 30
        18 20 22 24 26 28 30 32
        20 22 24 26 28 30 32 34
        22 24 26 30 32 32 34 36
        24 26 28 32 34 34 36 38
        26 28 30 32 34 36 38 40
        28 30 32 34 36 38 42 42
        30 32 34 36 38 40 42 44


Dialhot 07-31-2004 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazzy2004
importing of vobs.. :?:
any answers, ideas, or thoughts r gr8...

Unfortunally there isn't any tool that do that easily ! (or even that do that even hardly !)

Tmpgenc DVD Author can import directly a DVD structure (ie all the content of a VIDEO_TS directory except that is there are menus in it, they will be igored, unfortunally).

Else you have DVDlab PRo but unfortunalyl NOT the last betas released ! Even the number 6 (I tried it yesterday) is UNABLE TO COMPILE A DVD !
I laucnh the process, it took 3 minutes before to really start, then 2 minutes after it says : complete ! And of course nothing was done. :banghead:
This time the menu is kept but I never tried if the extras are also.

bigggt 07-31-2004 02:40 PM

Thanx Phil i did that as my first try but kept getting an error but i did not leave the tab ,i seen it in SansGrips post but forgot to do it

why does it need to be there

Dialhot 07-31-2004 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigggt
why does it need to be there

Because these lines will be simply pasted in the ecl at the place where they should be and there, all the lines start with a tab.

bigggt 07-31-2004 03:36 PM

OK getting clsoe but have a question about joing the vobs

i will give an example of the movie i'm trying with viewig first cell

VTS 1-vob-ID 1 (Start of the MOvie)
VTS 1-vob-ID 2 (movie)
VTS 1-vob-ID 3 (movie)
VTS 1-vob-ID 4 (movie rating)
VTS 1-vob-ID 5 (FBI Warning)
VTS 1-vob-ID 6 (Trailer)
VTS 2-vob-ID 1 (trailer)
VTS 2-vob-ID 2 (previews)
VTS 2-vob-ID 4 (extras)
VTS 2-vob-ID 5 (extras)
VTS 2-vob-ID 6 (extras)


Would i join all the VTS 1 or what

Remember i'm just trying to learn :D

Dialhot 07-31-2004 04:27 PM

Join the Id correponding to the movie only.


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