old KVCD templates with the kvcdx2 GOP structure?
Kwag..
Is it possible to use your old templates with the kvcdx2 GOP structure? Or can i just take the new template and change the resolution to 352x240? Im having a nightmare trying to get the new template to work with dvd rips. Its great for captures, but really difficult to get working properly on my apex 1500 with dvd rips. I was more interested in the last line of the GOP structure : Max number of frames in a GOP.. ON the old one it was 0 on the new one its 48... could i just change that one on the old template? sorry to be a pest tks |
Re: Is it possible.......?
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I am doing an encode right now to see the file size of "The Matrix" ( again :lol: ) with these parameters. I'm updating all of them with the same GOP ( 1-18-3-1-48 ) and the new Q.Matrix, except the KDVD templates which are 1-18-3-1-18. These values have given the optimal results. I'll start updating the template names like this probably late tonight or tomorrow: -- KVCD Standard VCD Size -- KVCD-CQ-352x240-(NTSCFilm)-1CD.mcf KVCD-CQ-352x240-(NTSCFilm)-2CD.mcf KVCD-CQ-352x288-(PAL)-1CD.mcf KVCD-CQ-352x288-(PAL)-2CD.mcf -- KVCD Half D1 Size -- KVCD-CQ-352x480-(NTSCFilm)-1CD.mcf KVCD-CQ-352x480-(NTSCFilm)-2CD.mcf KVCD-CQ-352x576-(PAL)-1CD.mcf KVCD-CQ-352x576-(PAL)-2CD.mcf -- KVCD XVCD Size -- KVCDx2-CQ-704x480-(NTSCFilm)-1CD.mcf KVCDx2-CQ-704x480-(NTSCFilm)-2CD.mcf KVCDx2-CQ-704x576-(PAL)-1CD.mcf KVCDx2-CQ-704x576-(PAL)-2CD.mcf -- KDVD Full D-1 DVD compliant -- KDVD-CQ-720x480-(NTSC).mcf KDVD-CQ-720x576-(PAL).mcf -- KDVD Half D-1 DVD compliant -- KDVD-CQ-352x480-(NTSC).mcf KDVD-CQ-352x576-(PAL).mcf This way it will be able to easily identify them, and avoid confusion! kwag This is the test template for the KVCD-CQ-352x240-(NTSCFilm)-1CD.mcf so tell me your result :roll: object TMPEGConfigFile MPEG.Text = '' MPEG.WizardCategoryName = '' MPEG.WizardSubFormatName = '' MPEG.WizardCaption = '' MPEG.WizardDescription = '' MPEG.WizardTargetMedia = MPEGConfig_TargetMediaType_Unknown MPEG.WizardAutoCalcVideoBitRate = False MPEG.WizardEnableAutoChooseVideoSizeList = False MPEG.WizardAutoChooseVideoSizeList = <> MPEG.OutputStreamType = MPEG_OutputStreamType_System_VideoAudio MPEG.OutputStreamType_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.StreamType = MPEGVideoEncoder_StreamType_MPEG1 MPEG.Video.StreamType_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.Width = 352 MPEG.Video.Width_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.Height = 240 MPEG.Video.Height_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.YUVFormat = 1 MPEG.Video.YUVFormat_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.DC_prec = 0 MPEG.Video.DC_prec_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.VideoEncodeMode = MPEGVideoEncoder_VideoEncodeMode_Progressive MPEG.Video.VideoEncodeMode_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.FrameRate = 1 MPEG.Video.FrameRate_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.AspectRatio = 12 MPEG.Video.AspectRatio_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.RateControlMode = MPEGVideoEncoder_RateControlMode_CQ MPEG.Video.RateControlMode_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.MaxBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.MaxBitRate_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.MinBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.MinBitRate_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.MinAvgBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.MinAvgBitRate_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.CBR_BitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.VBR_MultipassVBRAlgorithm = MPEGVideoEncoder_MultipassVBRAlgorithm_MultipassCQ MPEG.Video.VBR_AvgBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.VBR_MaxBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.VBR_MinBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.VBR_MaxPassCount = 2 MPEG.Video.VBR_Quality_P = 0 MPEG.Video.VBR_Quality_B = 20 MPEG.Video.VBR_EnablePadding = False MPEG.Video.MVBR_MaxBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.MVBR_MinBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.MVBR_Quality_P = 0 MPEG.Video.MVBR_Quality_B = 20 MPEG.Video.MVBR_EnablePadding = False MPEG.Video.AVBR_Quality = 0 MPEG.Video.AVBR_MaxBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.AVBR_MinBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.AVBR_EnablePadding = False MPEG.Video.CQ_Quality = 80 MPEG.Video.CQ_Quality_P = 0 MPEG.Video.CQ_Quality_B = 20 MPEG.Video.CQ_MaxBitRate = 1150000 MPEG.Video.CQ_MinBitRate = 300000 MPEG.Video.CQ_EnablePadding = True MPEG.Video.VBVBufferSize = 40960 MPEG.Video.VBVBufferSize_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.GOP_SeqHeaderInterval = 1 MPEG.Video.GOP_SeqHeaderInterval_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.GOP_I_FrameCount = 1 MPEG.Video.GOP_I_FrameCount_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.GOP_P_FrameCount = 18 MPEG.Video.GOP_P_FrameCount_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.GOP_B_FrameCount = 3 MPEG.Video.GOP_B_FrameCount_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.GOP_BitStreamForEdit = False MPEG.Video.GOP_BitStreamForEdit_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.GOP_MaxFrameCount = 48 MPEG.Video.GOP_MaxFrameCount_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.QuantizeMatrix_Intra_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.QuantizeMatrix_NonIntra_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.Profile = 4 MPEG.Video.Profile_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.Level = 8 MPEG.Video.Level_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.VideoFormat = 2 MPEG.Video.VideoFormat_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.DisplayWidth = 0 MPEG.Video.DisplayWidth_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.DisplayHeight = 0 MPEG.Video.DisplayHeight_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.MotionSearchSpeed = MPEGVideoEncoder_MotionSearchSpeed_Normal MPEG.Video.MotionSearch_AlwaysHalfPel = False MPEG.Video.UseFloatDCT = True MPEG.Video.QuantizeMode = True MPEG.Video.QuantizeModeVal_Intra = 0 MPEG.Video.QuantizeModeVal_NonIntra = 0 MPEG.Video.YUVBasicYCbCr = True MPEG.Video.QuantizeMatrix_Intra = { 080D0F131317171D0D0D111316171B1D0F111316171B1D2311 1516171B1D2325 1515171B1F21252E15191B1F21252E3A19191F212528364519 1F21252836454E} MPEG.Video.QuantizeMatrix_NonIntra = { 080B0D0F0F1313180B0B0F0F131518190D0F1113151819220D 111315171A2263 111315171A2063631115171A2063636316161C1E6363636316 1C1E6363636363} MPEG.Audio.StreamType = MPEGAudioEncoder_StreamType_MPEG1_Layer2 MPEG.Audio.StreamType_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.SamplingFrequency = 44100 MPEG.Audio.SamplingFrequency_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.ChannelMode = 2 MPEG.Audio.ChannelMode_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.CantUseMono = False MPEG.Audio.BitRate = 160000 MPEG.Audio.BitRate_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.CalcCRC = False MPEG.Audio.CalcCRC_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.OriginalFlag = False MPEG.Audio.OriginalFlag_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.CopyrightFlag = False MPEG.Audio.CopyrightFlag_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.PrivateFlag = False MPEG.Audio.PrivateFlag_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.EmphasisType = 0 MPEG.Audio.EmphasisType_ReadOnly = False MPEG.System.StreamType = MPEGSystemEncoder_StreamType_MPEG1_VideoCD_Illegal MPEG.System.StreamType_ReadOnly = False MPEG.System.EnableCommentText = False MPEG.System.CommentText = '' end |
WHO DA MAN?
Great thanks...
Im goin to be doin it with a Above Deadly Ground.. its 1:41 long.. ill giver a shot and tell ya the results as soon as i can... THis movie has plenty of BOOM BOOM BANG BANG in it.. plus lots of fire and smoke.. I usually use those elements on judgin the quality... tks |
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http://ns1.shidima.com/kwag/boom.mpg Just made it with the template above. 8) kwag |
Kwag,
Ummm, shouldn't your KVCDx2 templates be 704x480, not 352x480? |
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Thanks Scav. It's fixed. |
FitCD
kwag,
Are all the new templates to be used with FitCD or the DVD2AVI project file? I've had no success with FitCD, the resolution on Black Hawk Down scenes with a lot of dust is crappy. :cry: |
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kwag |
Well Kwag... the Results
Well the movie came out to be about 620 megs at the default CQ (which is 80) but the most important thing is that it plays perfectly on my Apex 1500 with no modifications what so ever.. :) Thank you.. Im goin to play around with the CQ some more..
Would making it higher get better quality or just a bigger file size? tks |
Re: Well Kwag... the Results
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"The Matrix" came out to 814,183KB with the template above. Perfectly burned with VCDEasy ( and the KVCD Intro too :wink: ) This is the template I'm going to recommend for compatibility issues. Even VCDEasy recognizes the mpeg as a standard VCD!. kwag |
I'm fixing to post the templates and the DVD compatibility table hopefully late tonight. From a single page, you'll be able to download the templates and view the DVD models that users have reported to work/not work.
Credit goes to MrRobot for supplying the data. I'll send an E-Mail announcement when the page is up. kwag |
just for your information, Nero also recognises the new template (KVCD-352x240-NTSCFilm) as "Standard VCD". So, does it mean that it can be viewed on ordinary "VCD" player??
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The mpeg created is still a CQ VBR file, and the bit rate is not constant. Some players will choke. But hopefully a very small percent :D kwag |
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Hi KWAG ! Tryed your new 1-18-3-1-48 GOP with "RONIN" and u now what ? Every 2-3 seconds color becomes brighter and some ugly blocks show up, but with 1-18-3-1-18 encoded clip was just perfect !!! So, maybe u will not to be too hurry and make some additional tests before u do so drastic change from 48 instead 18 . bman |
Hi bman:
1-18-3-1-18 will work ok, but not as much compression as 1-18-3-1-48. In standalone DVD players, a VCD with 1-18-3-1-48 looks perfectly fine, but in a software player, you will see the color changes you describe. For the KDVD templates, the 1-18-3-1-18 must be used because that last 18 is what fixes the number of frames per GOP. It's a requirement for DVD specifications, but not for VCD's. With 1-18-3-1-48 is how we gain such a high compression, not possible in DVD's. If I use 1-18-3-1-18, the VCD mgegs will be much larger then the current size, and the 120 minute mark in one CD will not be possible anymore. kwag |
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Finished "Ronin" encoding . I have changed some params to go up ( to avoid color changes and better visual quality) to 920-940 mb . 720x480 , 600/2300 spilage 0/20 , GOP 1-18-3-1-23 , Audio 44100 96kbps . So I've got 121 min movie with 940.2 mb - Precisely as intended for one CD-R90 . Movie looks "PERFECTO" Love our Work , you are great !!! For me - CD-R90 gives new life to KxVCD . bman |
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kwag |
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The last time I've bought GPT CD-R90 20 disk balk at "Office deppot" store - 5.5-6 US $ 8) They are reliable and high quality - so worth every cent for my purposes. :D bman |
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You may know this already, but CompUSA has 99 min CDRs (product # 282323). Apparently they're not available at all stores, but are available online. Add shipping, I dunno. But they are a good price compared to others I've found online, 16 of them for $9.99. These don't *appear* as 99 min online, but they are, the box has it on it. They're up to 16X too. Geoff |
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