Using KVCD 352x480 template and converted movie on 1 CD?
Last night selected KVCD 352x480 template from Wizard to encode Snatch from DVD rip again (see related issues on my previous post). Only setting that I've changed was the Aspect Ratio from 4:3 NTSC to 16:9 Display so to keep with the original. When under Video setting the Aspect Ratio was showing "4:3 525line (NTSC)" and I changed it to "16:9 525line (NTSC)". Under Advanced I kept the Source Aspect Ratio as 16:9, changed Video Arrange Method to "Full Screen keep aspect ratio 2" (according to Sefy's guide). Unchecked the Inverse telecine box. By this time the Wizard was showing est. file size to be 1428MB, but when I done with the encoding the actual file size is 745MB! AND I CAN ACTURALLY BURN ON ONE 80 MIN CD (without using the 1-CD template)!!! What happened?
When I play the mpeg file using Windows Media Player the sound was buried within, picture was blocky and ratio was squashed to more like 16:7 or 6. :( Then I thought what the hell, and burn as VCD anyway. When I played it on my Mintek 1600 player the picture was GREAT and the sound was LIVE!!! :D But the ratio is still appears to be wrong. :? Then I put the CD back in PC and use PowerDVD to play and the sound is GREAT, but the picture is still blocky. I guess because PC monitor has higher resolution than TV. Now I'm trying to re-encode it again with the Video affange Method set to "Full screen keep aspect ration" (not the 2) see if this will solve the ration problem. Does anyone know what I did wrong to cause the ration changed from 16:9 to 16:7(6)? |
Your aspect should look pretty much correct in the TMPEG monitor windows while encoding. If it looks too skinny of too tall, that's the way it's going to look in your standalone player.
kwag |
16:9 Ratio is still screwed up
Kwag,
I tried to set Video arrange Method (under Advanced) to "Full screen keep aspect ratio" instead of ".....ratio 2" and encoded 22 minutes. The quality is the same as before but the ratio is still at 16:7(or 6). What went wrong? Should I keep the aspect ration under Video setting to "4:3 525 line (NTSC)" instead of "16:9 525 line (NTSC)"? :?: Also, I notice that in Wizard 2/5 screen under Apect Ratio there is one for "16:9 display" and one for "16:9 525line (NTSC)", what's the different? Should I had chosen the ...525line.. one instead the ...display? Because later under Video setting there's only ...525 line... and no ...display. Maybe that's where the ratio got screwed up? With 22:29 clip I got 152,261KB file size, that's about 6.77MB/min, do you typically get that with your 352x480 template? I thought you get 13.91 according to TMPGEnc's Wizard. :? |
Re: 16:9 Ratio is still screwed up
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I guess you're reading a .d2v from TMPEG. Have you tried setting the aspect as Center (custom size ) 352x352 ? This is for the 352x480 templates. kwag |
Still out of 16:9 ratio
Kwag,
I've tried Center, Center keep ratio, Center custom, with 352x480 and 352x352. Nothing works. :( 352x352 looks in the right ratio when I play using PowerDVD on PC, but my Mintek 1600 doesn't like it. One time it showed two screens and positioned on the upper part of the screen. When I eject and reload it was showing as one screen but on the lower part of the TV screen with bottom cut off, and the quality is blocky, chuppy and real bad. So I don't know what else can I do? Any suggestions? Anybody? |
This is not regarding resolution but did you encode at 29.97 fps instead of 23.976 fps as it is in the template?.
KVCD's are reported to work only if encoded at 29.97 fps for your DVD model. http://www.kvcd.net/dvd-models.html kwag |
Yes, I did every time because I've read your site before I copied your templates into TMPGEnc.
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Correct Arrange method ???
Hi srsstvs !
I have another brand of DVD player but looks like they have similar behaviour . To u'r prob : In VIDEO stream settings - alwayes set 4:3 525 line (NTSC), In ADVANCED u set the source aspect retio => the one u want to get : If movie is 1.78:1 then 16:9 display with full screen Movie 2.3:1 ,2.1:1 set 16:9 display - full screen(keep aspect retio) For last one u can try 16:9 525line(NTSC) too . It's up to u . All those 352x352 or other resolutions like this wouldn't work for me and I beleave not for u eather . All CENTER params for me was waste of time . :x I hope this will help u :lol: bman 8) |
i did snatch last week and had NO problems. i used center (custom size) - 352 x 352 with perfect results. i have the jvc xv-s60bk. using 128 audio, my filesize came out to 797MB. looks and plays great on both pc and standalone.
here is my template: object TMPEGConfigFile MPEG.Text = '' MPEG.WizardCategoryName = '' MPEG.WizardSubFormatName = '' MPEG.WizardCaption = '' MPEG.WizardDescription = '' MPEG.WizardTargetMedia = MPEGConfig_TargetMediaType_Unknown MPEG.WizardAutoCalcVideoBitRate = False MPEG.WizardAutoChooseList.EnableVideoSize = False MPEG.WizardAutoChooseList.VideoSize = <> MPEG.WizardAutoChooseList.EnableVideoGOP = False MPEG.WizardAutoChooseList.VideoGOP = <> MPEG.OutputStreamType = MPEG_OutputStreamType_VideoOnly MPEG.OutputStreamType_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.StreamType = MPEGVideoEncoder_StreamType_MPEG1 MPEG.Video.StreamType_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.Width = 352 MPEG.Video.Width_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.Height = 480 MPEG.Video.Height_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.YUVFormat = 1 MPEG.Video.YUVFormat_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.DC_prec = 0 MPEG.Video.DC_prec_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.VideoEncodeMode = MPEGVideoEncoder_VideoEncodeMode_Progressive MPEG.Video.VideoEncodeMode_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.FrameRate = 1 MPEG.Video.FrameRate_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.AspectRatio = 12 MPEG.Video.AspectRatio_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.RateControlMode = MPEGVideoEncoder_RateControlMode_CQ MPEG.Video.RateControlMode_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.MaxBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.MaxBitRate_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.MinBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.MinBitRate_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.MinAvgBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.MinAvgBitRate_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.CBR_BitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.VBR_MultipassVBRAlgorithm = MPEGVideoEncoder_MultipassVBRAlgorithm_MultipassCQ MPEG.Video.VBR_AvgBitRate = 644000 MPEG.Video.VBR_MaxBitRate = 1750000 MPEG.Video.VBR_MinBitRate = 300000 MPEG.Video.VBR_MaxPassCount = 2 MPEG.Video.VBR_Quality_P = 0 MPEG.Video.VBR_Quality_B = 20 MPEG.Video.VBR_EnablePadding = True MPEG.Video.MVBR_MaxBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.MVBR_MinBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.MVBR_Quality_P = 0 MPEG.Video.MVBR_Quality_B = 20 MPEG.Video.MVBR_EnablePadding = False MPEG.Video.AVBR_Quality = 0 MPEG.Video.AVBR_MaxBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.AVBR_MinBitRate = 0 MPEG.Video.AVBR_EnablePadding = False MPEG.Video.CQ_Quality = 78 MPEG.Video.CQ_Quality_P = 0 MPEG.Video.CQ_Quality_B = 0 MPEG.Video.CQ_MaxBitRate = 2300000 MPEG.Video.CQ_MinBitRate = 300000 MPEG.Video.CQ_EnablePadding = True MPEG.Video.VBVBufferSize = 49152 MPEG.Video.VBVBufferSize_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.GOP_SeqHeaderInterval = 1 MPEG.Video.GOP_SeqHeaderInterval_ReadOnly = True MPEG.Video.GOP_I_FrameCount = 1 MPEG.Video.GOP_I_FrameCount_ReadOnly = True MPEG.Video.GOP_P_FrameCount = 18 MPEG.Video.GOP_P_FrameCount_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.GOP_B_FrameCount = 3 MPEG.Video.GOP_B_FrameCount_ReadOnly = True MPEG.Video.GOP_BitStreamForEdit = False MPEG.Video.GOP_BitStreamForEdit_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.GOP_MaxFrameCount = 48 MPEG.Video.GOP_MaxFrameCount_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.QuantizeMatrix_Intra_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.QuantizeMatrix_NonIntra_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.Profile = 4 MPEG.Video.Profile_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.Level = 8 MPEG.Video.Level_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.VideoFormat = 2 MPEG.Video.VideoFormat_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.DisplayWidth = 0 MPEG.Video.DisplayWidth_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.DisplayHeight = 0 MPEG.Video.DisplayHeight_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Video.MotionSearchSpeed = MPEGVideoEncoder_MotionSearchSpeed_HighCQ MPEG.Video.MotionSearch_AlwaysHalfPel = True MPEG.Video.UseFloatDCT = True MPEG.Video.QuantizeMode = False MPEG.Video.QuantizeModeVal_Intra = 35 MPEG.Video.QuantizeModeVal_NonIntra = 35 MPEG.Video.YUVBasicYCbCr = False MPEG.Video.QuantizeMatrix_Intra = { 081013161A1B1D22101016181B1D222513161A1B1D22222616 161A1B1D222528 161A1B1D202328301A1B1D202328303A1A1B1D22262E38451B 1D23262E384553} MPEG.Video.QuantizeMatrix_NonIntra = { 10111213141516171112131415161718121314151617181913 14151617181A1B 14151617191A1B1C151617181A1B1C1E1617181A1B1C1E1F17 18191B1C1E1F21} MPEG.Audio.StreamType = MPEGAudioEncoder_StreamType_MPEG1_Layer2 MPEG.Audio.StreamType_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.SamplingFrequency = 44100 MPEG.Audio.SamplingFrequency_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.ChannelMode = 2 MPEG.Audio.ChannelMode_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.CantUseMono = False MPEG.Audio.BitRate = 160000 MPEG.Audio.BitRate_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.CalcCRC = False MPEG.Audio.CalcCRC_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.OriginalFlag = False MPEG.Audio.OriginalFlag_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.CopyrightFlag = False MPEG.Audio.CopyrightFlag_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.PrivateFlag = False MPEG.Audio.PrivateFlag_ReadOnly = False MPEG.Audio.EmphasisType = 0 MPEG.Audio.EmphasisType_ReadOnly = False MPEG.System.StreamType = MPEGSystemEncoder_StreamType_MPEG1_VideoCD_Illegal MPEG.System.StreamType_ReadOnly = False MPEG.System.EnableCommentText = False MPEG.System.CommentText = '' end my audio was encoded seperately from demuxed ac3 to mp2 via besweet. i keep mine at 48Khz. muxed the video and audio with tmpgenc tools (video non-standard). source aspect ratio is ALWAYS 16:9 525 line (NTSC). |
I did it!
Finally got Snatch with 16:9 widescreen result. :D :D :D This is where I messed up:
When using the Wizard: after brought in the ripped video file (.d2v) from DVD the Aspect ratio will automatically change to 4:3 525line (NTSC), and that's what I should have kept! That means what the source is, despite the fact that on DVD box it says: "16:9 widescreen", that's what got me confused from the beginning! (I've not tried to rip from a "Formatted (Full) screen" DVD yet, but I bet the Aspect ratio will change to reflect that as well.) This is what you should keep if you want to keep the original format! But in Sefy's step by step guide (step 2) he said "...this is where you set if your DVD is in a Wide Screen format or Full Screen..." and that's what I did from the beginning to set it as "16:9 Display" according to DVD box and came out like 16:6. Under Video setting: Aspect ratio should be set to "16:9 525lien (NTSC)", this is where you define what kind of output format you want. Under Advanced setting: Source Aspect ratio should be showing what was shown at the beginning of the Wizard, which is "4:3 525line (NTSC)". If I change this to 16:9 again it will change the setting in the beginning of the Wizard as well, and vice versa, then I'll screw up the output ratio again! Video arrage Method should be set to "Full Screen (keep aspect ratio)". If I change it to other setting it'll get screwed up again! So, the whole trick is about to get these settings to work out with the right combination, to me I think it is very tricky and confused, because somehow it againsts logic. Anyway, I finally got it! THX to all of you who offered help! PS: the long battle about 2-pass VBR vs. CQ? I used both with the same Min./Max. bitrate settings on Snatch, 2-pass VBR came out better on my 32" SONY Trinitron TV with less file size (620MB vs. 720(?)MB)!!!! :D :D |
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