What is better today?
 

What script is better today?

That that uses:

MAScript.
HybridFupp.
Colormatrix.
Deen.
Another one?

Please post here your opinion and the script (except MAScript that is perfectly defined).

Thanks.

Colormatrix?!
What's that? 8O

I see you found out what it is in another thread.

For me the better is still this :
I changed very few things since august 2004 (usage of DGIndex insteed of DVD2AVI and Lanczos4 insteed of lanczos).
I just use add "colormatrix" when I encode with Tmpgenc but it's very rare now that I'm doing only DVD (I use CCE).

I never use MA, never use any sharpener filter. They all lead to disasters in my eyes.

@Dialhot
Hi. I will try out your script tonight. BTW do you use CCE with DVD-RB when encoding DVDs?

Yes I do. And in this case I just use Removegrain().Deen() as filter.

@Dialhot
When do you use the script you posted if not for DVD?

The Deen filter you're using, is it the beta (don't remember the version now... 1.0)? From what I recall from my previous tests with Deen I thought it removed too much detail. But the version I used then wasn't the beta.

You mean for source or target ?

The version I use is the one you can find now on official site (http://www.avisynth.org/warpenterprises/). It is 1.0 beta 1.

Phil meant that when he uses DVD-RB, he just use Removegrain().Deen(), and not the resize and addborders, as that is managed by DVD-RB.
But always is used to encode DVDs, sources and targets.

Hi Phil

Is there any possible way you could put this

in a dvd2svcd script

Please and Thanx :D

I removed this tool at least one year ago. It can't predict so it is useless.

Ok Thanx Phil

Phil, the script posted here is optimal for DVD->KDVD.

What about of DVD->KVCD?

Thanks,


-Maurus

The blockbuster line is when there is too much macro blokis in the result, due to the combination of Deen + TemporalSoften that "smooth" too much the surfaces.

1) If the source is DVD for both targets KDVD and KVCD...

Why I must use TemporalSoften() only for KVCD targets?

2) And I use GripFit filters for automatic crop/resize with LanczosResize. What's your opinion?

Thanks.


-Maurus

Because you have 6x more space on a DVD than on a CD ! So to do a KVCD you must remove more things. Or telling in the opposite way, when you are doing a KDVD you can be less tight on the compressibility.

I use to do 3-movie KDVD, than means that I have 1.3 GB for each movie. If I would have done 2-CD KVCD then I would not use temporalsoften for them.

I used to do that but this filter has some problems leading to runtime error (aka crashes) from avisynth in rare situations. But you can use it for sure. Just keep in mind that this can be the reason if you suffer a crash once a day.

1) I use KDVD to 2-movie DVD... My average bitrate are 2500-3000, my CQ is 80-89. Very Good quality.

But With 3 movies, are good quality? What are the minim for CQ and Average bitrate?


2) No problem here with runtime errors, but with GripFit I can't use Lanczos4resize. Only LanczosResize and Bicubicresize (normal 0.3, not Bicubic Precise at 0.6). And I read GripFit not support 544 resolution...


3) If wish use the new RemoveGrain 0.7 for P4. It has serveral dlls, what dlls must I use? what dll must I put in LoadPlugin line of avs script? I must reference the plugin as DRemoveGrain?

Thanks for all.

-Maurus

RemoveGrain is now at v0.9.

If you have a P4 CPU, use the one with SSE2 in the name. Remove all other RemoveGrain plugins from the plugins folder. The function is called RemoveGrain() in all the dlls.

A side note: I put two movies per DVD and calculate a weighted average bitrate for each one according to the compressibility and length. That way both movies will be of equal quality which might not be the case if you simply divided the available diskspace between them.

How do you do that calculations?

I've got an Excel spreadsheet which will do the math, I just have to input the number of frames, the average bitrate of a sample clip (I encode a 3-5% sample) and the total bitrate of the audio tracks.

First, note that I have a standalone that eats almost anything (pioneer DV454). For three movies, I use regular KVCDx3 resolution (544x480/576). This is NOT standard for a DVD, but it works for me. With this, I also have a CQ about 85-90, and so the quality is excellent. Average bitrate is not really interesting compared to CQ value.

It supports it very well. And you can use the resizer you want by using only GripCrop, then the resizer (not Gripsize) using the internal variables from gripfit.
Fabrice discovered this and explained it there : http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....gripcrop#63177

Thanks, Phil.

-Maurus

Maurus please not IF! you choose 528 or 544 as DVD widths like Phil does, then you shouldnt use GripfFit as Resize Calculator! As GripFits c++ code showed me that the PAR of 544 is calculated directly out of 3/4 PAR from 720 and thats not correct.

So if you resize to 528/544 widths (NTSC or PAL) do use FitCD in case of all other known widths you can use GripFit.

Btw .... IF the DVD Standalone also supports 528 widths in DVD Mode I never would use 544 widths in PAL as a lot of Pixels which are encoded will be finally out of the TV effective Display range. Its the same "logic" like when encoding 704 and not 720 ;)

768 = PAL max. Area (Overscan not included)

544 * (512/351) = 793!
528 * (512/351) = 770!

... means 528 is enough to match PALs needed 768 Area :)

768/(512/351) = 526,5 ... means the effective Picture Width area of 544 and 528 encoding shown on a PAL TV Device (overscan still not included!)

Hello guys...I wasj ust wondering which Plugins would i have to load to this script that dialhot posted earlier.

i know one of them has to be the deen.dll but i'm not sure about all the other ones. Thanks

Dgdecode.dll and RemoveGrainSse2.dll (if you have a P4, else the name change). Do a search on the forum to find them.

Do you mean to find the rest of the Filters i need ? or are those the only 2 that i need that u posted

In the script you post there is no need for other things. Others instruction are internal to avisynth. RTFM.

Ahh okay i see what your saying....what version of avisynth you using 2.5 Beta or just the 2.0 ? I heard that 2.5 Beta isnt really stable at the moment

You probably heard that during last century ;).

The only official release of avs is now 2.5.5. 2.0 is dead since 2 years.
Betas are all numbered 2.5.6 and have "betas" in their name.

http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...group_id=57023

hahah yeah my mistake k i'll install this 2.5 and not the 2.5.6 Alpha :) thanks for this script i hope it gives axceptable resulsts