I also got that Red Planet DVD too :)
Here is version 0.13b where I did some corrections on the pixelparser and also I corrected the second crop value info that it outputs a crop() variant without negative values. Also it should be a bit faster now as I do parse the sides using 1/6 of the total width from each direction and the height 1/4 from each direction as I dont think that Movies using Top/Bottom Border with more than 144px each will be used as source. |
This is getting a very interesting thread :D.
Will try autocrop as soon as possible. Thanks for sharing it with us Andrej :D. Cheers |
Hi Andrej,
Thanks for the update. :D I don't what you did but it seems to have done the trick with regard to Red Planet. ;) It is good that you also have this DVD to test. :D http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i...2005/08/31.jpg Thanks to ImageShack for Free Image Hosting If you look now at the above picture the cropping on Alien3 looks perfect. :D I had to hit the Autocrop button twice because when I first loaded Alien3 and let it play for a bit and hit the Autocrop it messed up slightly in the left hand side on the first go, see picture below: http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i...2005/08/32.jpg Thanks to ImageShack for Free Image Hosting The first picture is after I hit the Autocrop button twice. You will notice on the first picture the first value is 0 and the the left hand side on the crop is undershot. The first picture after hitting the Autocrop for a second time it correct this and add a left value of 10. I hope these tests of mine help you out in some way Andrej, for me this workaround of hitting the autocrop twice is o.k. :D Thanks for updating and the changes that you have made to this excellent tool. :D EDIT: Btw I love the fact that your tool give two different ways of adding crop values to your AviSynth script. :) In my case this is: Crop(10,76,0,-76) or use Crop(10,76,720,424) Thanks again Andrej this is excelent work. :D |
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Or wait to see if Inc decides to merge Mencalc and Autocrop as he planed to do :) |
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Entering those values into FitCD I get: http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/error.gif Thanks to ImageShack for Free Image Hosting Should the AddBorders line be used to replace the LetterBox command? In DVD-RB I use as per your suggestion LetterBox(16,16,16,16), do the LetterBox and AddBorders work completely different? Or could I use LetterBox(8,80,8,80)? Sorry for the dumb question but I still need to learn the differences between these two filters. I take it if I use AddBorders that I don't need to add a LetterBox to my script is this true? Also I agree I hope Inc does merge the MenCalc tool with this it will be awesome when that happens. :D @Incredible Btw my tests in my previous post was done using the latest version of your tool, I think I forgot to mention that. ;) |
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We have to use letterbox in DVD-RB because we can't resize. So the picture is the size of the source, that is 720*576. Then we "paint" the 16 pixels on each side in black, to gain some compressibility. When you can use a resizer, it's a better idea to resize to something smaller than the targetted size (here your target 704*576) and add a border all arround to picture to reach the correct size. That is exactly what FitCD does for you : it resizes to 688*416 than add 8+8 pixels on left/right (688 + 8 + 8 = 704) and 80+80 on top/bottom (416 + 160 = 576). Quote:
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The correct values should have been: Crop(10,72,-4,-74) Again thank you so much Phil for helping me understand how and when to use AddBorders and when to use LetterBox and for explaining why we use them a certain way. I now have a better understanding of how to go about manual encoding with these cropping values. So thanks again. :D |
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Sorry Phil to bother you again, on one final note. I was also doing some tests with Karl's MA optimal script, I know this uses GripFit and I thought if you enter these values in via MS then it would crop automatically for you. However I notice near the end of the MA Script is the LetterBox command but with a # in front. I knows this turns it into a remark line and it will not be executed, it says depends on situation use MS. Does this mean then if you choose not to use GripFit and do a manual resize via say FitCD or MS then you need to the values MS gives you for AddBorders and input that into the LetterBox params in the script? I will use the FitCD method of resizing and do my script that way but I would appreciate some clarification with regard to matter please. Thanks in advance. |
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That's one of the big reasons why I always liked MS better than FitCD. I hope Andrej can go for a similar project as FitCD. And since I know Andrej love's using overlaped resizing on his anamorphic KDVD encodes... That means that he would add that feature to his project for sure. I guess we'll have to wait and see where it all goes down to. Cheers |
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Letterbox just masks existing pixels so you loose them for ever ! Addborders is a lot better as you do not loose anything, but resize the frame to a lower res then add a border arround it. I really don't find letterbox better than addborders. |
Well it depends actually I do prefer an overlapping Overscan.
Cause I want to maintain the size of the visible borders in case of 1.78 or 2.35:1 movies on my 16:9 Tv. |
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(pixels that you don't see on the original DVD BTW, but as we are doing a resize, why not having all the pixels on the screen ?). |
Right Phil, I see your taste as you want to "compensate" the TV's overscan for watching all the movietreatment of the original DVD Moviedata.
In case of 4:3 Sources I totally agree (btw. Im just talking about my taste not a suggestion or recommendation ;) ) But as said I like for my taste the compromise that I gonna loose Pixels on the side, but on the other hand I dont have larger top/bottom-borders when watching 1.78:1 or 2.35:1 stuff on my 16:9 tv. So the 16px Overlayed Overscan in this case is just a compression advantage for me. |
I understood. Some times ago I prefered to use letterbox that to introduce artifacts in the source by resizing it. And I changed my mind finally. Nothing is for ever :)
Note: on a Philipps plasma screen I saw recently a "zoomed 16:9" mode that stretches vertically a 2.35 into a 2.21 (and probably a 2.21 into a 1.85). This is perfect for people that don't like when bars are too big :) (the distortion in A/R, even if noticiable, is not too strong). |
These zooming modes on displaydevices are nice.
I got 2 options: One on my DVD player where the Image can be zoomed continuously by keeping the PAR. And the Other is the Panasonic 16:9 itself. But there the zooms are fixed, means I can see 4:3 as 14:9 (top/bottom are a little cropped) and zooming for example a 2.35:1 to 1.788:1 (16:9 Full screen pan-scan). What I dont like is the autoZoom mode on the Panasonic 16:9 in 4:3 input. There the TV keeps the middle as unstretched as possible and stretches only the sides. So a tall Man in the Middle becomes a fat boy if he moves to a side :lol: |
Well this is it how it "should" look. But dont expect me to release it the next days as I gotta lot of work.
http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/error.gif Thanks to ImageShack for Free Image Hosting ;) |
Andrej,
....shhhh... looks GrEaT :wink: I'll be sitting in front of PC monitor, waiting for the release... :D |
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