Unbelievable! The script hasn't changed in 5 days??
 

I'm shocked! You guys usually change the script du jour everytime I check this site!! What gives?

We're all probably in a encoding cycle :mrgreen:

-kwag

lol, now you're making sense!!

Matter of fact, I'm in the middle of one now!!

Well, sorry to spoil yor encode, but go ahead and break it :mrgreen:
I've added STMedianFilter(10, 50, 0, 0, 10, 50). The theory behind this is that I turned on ONLY the "Spatial" portion of the filter, and left the "Temporal" functions disabled. The result is to filter ONLY spatial information, which is only intra frame (adjacent pixels in a frame) as opposed to inter frame temporal filtering, which is reference to adjacent frames. The result is a file size reduction, with identical maintained quality, and no image streaking as normally seen with heavy temporal smoothers. The file size reduction is ~160KB to 180KB per minute of video :wink:

-kwag

No Kwag!!! AAAHHHHH!!

You and your constant innovations!!

Hell, I've got to try it anyway....

:lol:

:mrgreen:

hi friends :wink:

i'm testing the new script ...

LegalClip()
GripCrop( X, Y )
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
STMedianFilter(10, 50, 0, 0, 10, 50)
unfilter(50,50)
temporalsmoother(1,2)
mergechroma(blur(1.58))
mergeluma(blur(0.3))
GripBorders()
LegalClip()

the image is fantastic but is very very slow!!! :cry:
TMPGEnc:
left 05:47:xx to end with CQ: 66,127 for only 280Mb final size!
(from MovieStacker script & ToK values.)

:!: :cry: (using Athlon xp 2000+ , Maxtor 60G 7200rpm , 512Mb Ram)

any :idea: :?:

ps:
why the number "8" appears like 8) in the script posted??? :?:
:?

thanks in advance!
:D

Hi jorel,

The line: STMedianFilter(10, 50, 0, 0, 10, 50) will slow down the encoding somewhat, but the file size will drop drastically. If you get good quality without it, then just drop the filter. But for long movies or action movies, the filter will help increase the CQ a lot!.

The 8) show when you use an 8 followed by a ) like this (8)) because it's the emoticon characters. If you want 8 to show, use spaces. Like this: ( 8 )

-kwag

Hi Jorel !
Only 280 mb final size for mpg ??? 8O 8O 8O
How long is the clip ??? :? :? :?

bman

than 8 is 8) !
:lol:

and ok about the STMedianFilter(10, 50, 0, 0, 10, 50)
still using...really cool image!!

thanks Kwag(rapid clicker)!
:D

hi bman :)

yes, Only 280 mb final size for mpg cos
it's only part of a musical.
the remain size is for another!

:wink:

everytime i try mad thinks... 8O

and got incredible results!!!
8)

Wonderfull !
I'm so happy for ya :lol:
But Can u tell my how long is a clip in minutes :D :D :D
bman

bman friend wrote: :)
" But Can u tell my how long is a clip in minutes :lol: :lol: :lol: "

of course; with audio at 160 in this case:
32:30....! :wink:

my "wonderful" calculation: :roll: :roll:

everything more or less with precision! 8O :lol: :lol:


:!:

Hey jorel, are you sure you have STmedianfilter in the right place in your script? That looks a little backwards to me... shouldn't the filter come later, say after mergeluma??

NOOOOOOOOOOO :!: Yet more testing!!!!!!! :lol: "Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water..."

Anyways, I decided to run my usual comparison test using the latest optimal script with and without STMedianFilter(10, 50, 0, 0, 10, 50), and also once using SpaceDust() instead of STMedianFilter. The clip is a fullscreen 1:45 trailer, encoded @ 544x480 and 29.97fps (as my dvd player requires), on a P4 2.26GHz with 1GB ddr-ram.

Results:
Viewed on my standard TV, I couldn't see too much difference between using STMedianFilter and not using it, but I do think there may have been a very small decrease in detail with it (but after doing so much testing over the past month or so, it may also simply be that I'm hesitant to more script changes at this point...or maybe it's all in my head! :wink: ). Using STMedianFilter did seem to look slightly better than SpaceDust though to me (plus gave a tad more compression), so personally if I'm ever in need of some extra compression on those longer movies, I'll probably turn to STMedianFilter first and foremost. So thanks once again kwag! :drink:

-d&c

so does the new filter have to be loaded or is it already written into avisynth ? (stmedian)

Also will it help put a 102 minute movie on one KVCDx3 disc ?

hi Reno :D

yes, i have STmedian filter in the right place !!

see:

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....80191dbdc31a63

:wink:

hi LadyMiles :)

the filter have to be loaded (download from doom9)

and i think that 102 minutes in one KVCDx3 is possible!
(audio 128,if don't 112)
:wink:

Thanks Superman's Daddy :)

download here:

www.trbarry.com/STMedianFilter.zip

:D

hey LadyMiles,

:wink:

jorel is Superman's Daddy and
my name mixed with the my wife's name:

Jorge & Elaine!
8)

Hi all !
@ FRIEND Jorel !
After your post I tried STMedian on DivX " I-Spy " .
I have to say this DivX is very noisy and hard one . 8O 8O 8O
Tryed KWAG's optimal script but resulted quality is poor and collors are like "Washed" or something like . :evil:
Couldn't get CQ value more than 58 for 480x480 res with very , very poor quality. :cry: :roll: :roll:
But ... : :wink::wink:
Than I tryed STMedian and I can tell ya : " Phenomenon " . :D :D :D
With this filter I could reach CQ 76 with very fine quality and colors become more stable too .
AS KWAG sead in his script for more compression Convolution3D and Space or Faery dusts give me more 3 CQ units . :P :P :P
Final CQ 79 and no trases of ghoast or gibbs on video . :D :D :D
It's amasing result of HARD work and want thank's to ya MAN and KWAG and meny OTHERS too that made It possible .
Thank's to all :!: :!: :!:
bman

hi bman!

can you post that script you used for this source? I'd like to try it! thanks! :wink:

Jellygoose,

that script is in my first post on this thread or here:

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....d70374412ccecd

:wink:

Hi Bman :) Do you use Spacedust for DivX sources :?:

//Wolfi

Hi Wolfi !
I had to use to get more compression !!!
Why , I shouldn't ??? :oops:
bman

I think SpaceDust would be good for DivX, I normally use FaeryDust...

FaeryDust on DivX ?

must be very bad noisy source. i only use spacedust in hard cases

I've used Spacie this far

I've always been a bit confused about the Dust filters, but doesn't the strength of the filters go Faery --> Space --> Pixie? At least that's what MovieStacker would leave me to believe. But based on some other people's posts sometimes I think it's Space --> Faery --> Pixie. Alls Is knows is that Pixie takes a verrrrrrrrry long time... :) Could anyone please shed some light on this matter? Thanx!

Hi J-Wo,

There are four Dust filters. The order from weaker to stonger is:
Space->Faery->Pixie->Gold :wink:

Edit: Just PM'ed muaddib suggesting a re-arrangement of the filter order in MovieStacker :)

-kwag

As far as I know, Spacedust=lightest filtering, Pixie=heaviest filtering (slowest encoding).

EDIT: Sorry Kwag, didn't see that you had already replied with more detailed info!

Thanks guys! I'm eaaaagerly awaiting an update on Moviestacker to include all those new filters you use now, plus some other minor fixes I've been itching for (e.g. being able to save a default script).

Hats off to you again Kwag for keeping us all up to date on the latest scripts. I've downloaded some tv caps in divx format but only vcd resolution, and they look really great with the latest scripts! In dark scenes, I can see exactly where there'd be normally DCD (?) blocks in the background but now it's all uniformally smoothed out and more "grainy" rather than blocky.

Hold your breath, because it might be closer than you think :mrgreen:

-kwag

So do you think FaeryDust is too much for high quality DivX? :? I always thought FaeryDust was a more normal amount of filtering and SpaceDust was lighter filtering if you wanted to sacrifice some quality for speed... :?:

Hi PyRo !
Best is to try coz there are no 2 identical sources out there :D
Try and see which one fits u more :wink:
bman

The order is like this, from weak/faster (left) to strong/slower (right);

SpaceDust-->FaeryDust-->PixieDust-->GoldDust
And remember this:
-kwag

What is "Spatial filters" :?:

//Wolfi

Look under "Description" here :wink: http://www.kvcd.net/sansgrip/avisynt...th-readme.html

-kwag

Okej, now I can see the differces :) So the only temporal filter who is in use, when talking about the script for dvd and clean material, is temporalsmoother :?:

//Wolfi