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Krassi 06-24-2003 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audioslave
@kwag
Where can I download the older versions of ToK?

Here:
http://www.kvcd.net/hedix/ToK_0.0.5.2.zip

audioslave 06-24-2003 10:55 AM

Thanks Krassi! :wink:

J-Wo 06-24-2003 11:24 AM

Just to clarify, if I go back to ToK v.0.0.5.2, what should I set my Factor for Prediction?

kwag 06-24-2003 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Wo
Just to clarify, if I go back to ToK v.0.0.5.2, what should I set my Factor for Prediction?

You should run a couple of prediction samples at 1.0, and check your results. I'm trying that out right now :)

-kwag

kwag 06-24-2003 11:56 AM

ToK 0.0.5.2 is working like a charm with Sampler() :)
Just ran "K-Pax" prediction, and gave me a CQ of 62.914. With manual Sampler prediction, I had calculated a CQ of 65.32 and my file size was over for~2.5%.
The same for "The Boondock Saints". My calculated CQ was 63.2. Now with ToK 0.0.5.2, I got 63.146 ( extremely close:!: )
These tests were with the "video.en1" that uses "Motion Estimation" for search precision, and "Scene Change" detection turned on.
Using factor of 1.0 for both tests and using Tenra's "Faster prediction" method.

-kwag

audi2honda 06-24-2003 12:02 PM

let us know how the final encode works out. I'm running one right now

jorel 06-24-2003 12:10 PM

please,
where is the "Scene Change" detection to turn on in ToK :?:

Krassi 06-24-2003 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorel
please,
where is the "Scene Change" detection to turn on in ToK :?:

Hey Jorel, nice to "see" you.
It's in the video.en1-file in ToK's opt folder. Kwags new video.en1-file already has this option activated 8) .

jorel 06-24-2003 12:15 PM

thanks,nice to see you too Krassi!

believe me..i'm blind,i edit the file and don't find this (line) option!
8O
not found in 0052 and 0053.....i'm blind?
8O

kwag 06-24-2003 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audi2honda
let us know how the final encode works out. I'm running one right now

I'm not going to encode K-Pax again, because I know the result :)
Specially on that movie, which was over size. With the new CQ calculated by ToK, I'm pretty sure it will be <1% because it's almost three CQ points lower :cool:
Now I'm going for a long encode of "K-19", which is a long movie ( Total Time : 02:18:06 )
Just finished predicting with a CQ of 57.207 for 528x480.
Here's the short 10% sample: www.kvcd.net/k-19-short-adaptive.mpg
Starting to encode now ... Estimated time ~5 hours, 20 minutes.


-kwag

kwag 06-24-2003 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorel
thanks,nice to see you too Krassi!

believe me..i'm blind,i edit the file and don't find this (line) option!
8O
not found in 0052 and 0053.....i'm blind?
8O

Hi jorel,

The line should read: Video.AutoForceIPict = True
Normally, it's set to False :)

-kwag

J-Wo 06-24-2003 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Starting to encode now ... Estimated time ~5 hours, 20 minutes.

A little off topic but....
I just upgaded my system the other week to an AMD 2500+ Barton with 512mb DDR400 ram. I have the system overclocked to 2.2ghz, which is roughly equivalent to a 3200+ (or so I'm told!). Anyway I can't believe what a difference my encode speeds have become. What would take me 7-9 hrs before, I now encode in REAL TIME! So right now I'm doing a two part xvid encode of Chicago at CQ 56.766 (prediction factor 1.0). I'll let you know how it went in ~2 hrs! :lol:

jorel 06-24-2003 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Quote:

Originally Posted by jorel
thanks,nice to see you too Krassi!

believe me..i'm blind,i edit the file and don't find this (line) option!
8O
not found in 0052 and 0053.....i'm blind?
8O

Hi jorel,

The line should read: Video.AutoForceIPict = True
Normally, it's set to False :)

-kwag

i'm thankfull Kwag cos you never forget that:
:imstupid:
thank you..i found!

if the things aren't too clear,i can't see nothing.

thanks. :oops:

jorel 06-24-2003 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Wo
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Starting to encode now ... Estimated time ~5 hours, 20 minutes.

A little off topic but....
I just upgaded my system the other week to an AMD 2500+ Barton with 512mb DDR400 ram. I have the system overclocked to 2.2ghz, which is roughly equivalent to a 3200+ (or so I'm told!). Anyway I can't believe what a difference my encode speeds have become. What would take me 7-9 hrs before, I now encode in REAL TIME! So right now I'm doing a two part xvid encode of Chicago at CQ 56.766 (prediction factor 1.0). I'll let you know how it went in ~2 hrs! :lol:

J-Wo,
real time?
8O
cool ...
hey,another proove that:
:imstupid:
i forgot to send to you a picture for more than a month. 8O
excuse me J-Wo my friend.
i send to you today.
:D

audi2honda 06-24-2003 12:56 PM

real time?? with the filters in the MA optimal script?

I have a P4 2.8 and get about 4 hours with the MA scrpit depending on movie length. Currently doing a 150 minute movie and target is 4 hours 20 minutes

J-Wo 06-24-2003 12:57 PM

Oh ya, it's incredible! Yesterday I was doing a 90min video which took 95 minutes to encode. Today I'm doing a 110min movie and it looks like it's going to take 120min. I really was looking to upgrade primarily to speed up my encode times (don't play much games) and let's just say I absolutely got my money's worth! No more celeron 1.2 for me. :D

kwag 06-24-2003 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Wo
I now encode in REAL TIME!

:stickouttongue:

-kwag

J-Wo 06-24-2003 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audi2honda
real time?? with the filters in the MA optimal script?

I have a P4 2.8 and get about 4 hours with the MA scrpit depending on movie length. Currently doing a 150 minute movie and target is 4 hours 20 minutes

Yup, I'm using the latest MA optimal script. Which P4 2.8 do you have? Do you have the normal 533fsb or the new P4 2.8c 800fsb? Also how much/fast is your memory? I'm totally new to the AMD world but I'm told that with my Barton 2500+ overclocked to about a 3200+, that's "equivalent" to a P4 3.2. However with a P4 I'm told you should be able to get faster encoding times because TMPGEnc supports SSEII. You do have that turned on, don't you?

90 mins left... 8)

audi2honda 06-24-2003 01:16 PM

yea i have sse turned on. I have the old 533mhz fsb version. Wow I didn't think the AMD would cook that fast. The barton has more L2 Cache, but I didn't think that mattered for video encoding/rendering.

Actually this is a spare computer at my office I use to encode :-) When I finally upgrade my home machine I'm gonna go AMD. real time...that's nutz :!:

J-Wo 06-24-2003 01:41 PM

yeah, I don't think a higher L2 cache makes much of a difference, but I'm told memory does. Right now with my fsb at 220mhz, the ddr400 memory is runnint at ddr440 speeds. And I was able to set aggressive latency timing on it so it runs at CL2.5 (and this is only on normal, basic infinion ram). Later on when I save up a bit more and memory prices drop, I plan on buying a second 512mb dimm. Sticking that into my ABIT NF7-S motherboard gives me something called dualDDR. Don't know much about it, but maybe soon I'll be able to encode FASTER than realtime!

So honda, again, what is your memory for your current system?


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