I guess we skin the pig ehhh :mrgreen:
Edit: you all did :!: :mrgreen: |
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Here you go guys :)
Here's the small sampler of K19 (~1MB), so that's how the whole 138 minutes looks like on one CD-R :mrgreen: http://www.kvcd.net/k19-fast-predict...-cq-63.209.mpg Enjoy :) -kwag |
So do we continue using tok 0.0.5.2 or can we go back to 0.0.5.3 and what settings should we use?
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I havent tried that yet :!: I'll give that a shot too, and see if the CQ matches a very close CQ as 0.0.5.2. If it does, then we can use 0.0.5.3 :) I'll run both predictions. The full, and Tenra's "Fast" prediction. Only if both match, I would then use 0.0.5.3. -kwag |
Here's the result with ToK 0.0.5.3, which uses "SelectRangeEvery()" instead of "Sampler()" for prediction.
This was on my "K-Pax" movie. CQ found using "Tenra's" Fast prediction: 70.138 CQ found using normal (long) prediction: 69.940 The CQ found by ToK 0.0.5.2 was 65.51 using Tenra's "Fast" mode, and the full prediction was almost the same number. And that is the correct CQ, because I left the movie encoding last night, and the result this morning was +1.73% accurate :) This proves that the "SelectRangeEvery()" is a problem for prediction, but SansGrip's method of selecting frame range is excelent :) So I would stick to 0.0.5.2. Other than the file prediction method used, there's no difference from 0.0.5.2 and 0.0.5.3 -kwag |
Hi Guys, last night i encodes (A guy thing) 1:41 min 70.61% CQ on one CD output video was 710MB, audio was 83MB for a total file size of 793MB.
This was using tok 5.2 n tenras fast prediction, so i guess this turkey is really cooked now. :D |
Hi ovg64,
What was your % accuracy on that encode :?: -kwag |
and please Osvaldo,
write all details,..if is mpge1 or 2,the "resize",time of the source, everything cos i loose the high prediction again, then i need of all informations. my CQ back to 56 "house" again. |
Hey Guys, here you go; :D
Mpeg 1 712 mb video wanted 710 obtain 83 mb audio at 112 kbps 1, 24, 2, 1, 24 gop Fast Prediction * Factor 1.00 Sample Auto * # sample/min. 1 1 Group Pass presicion % 0.50 speed up by 10 10:00 % presicion 80min. CD -1 Quote:
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ovg64: That's great that you got such an accurate prediction! I've been wondering lately at what point should we predict using 2 samples/min instead of the default 1? I've pretty much been raising it to 2 whenever the movie is shorter than 2:00:00 long, but I see this one is 1:40:00. Any opinions?
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use in tok 5.3 at least in Avs 2.52, cause yesterday i use 3 setting mine, kwags n Tenras and they all came to around the same 70% CQ for this same movie. :) |
really strange Osvaldo.
my source: Resolution (fps):480x480 (29,970 fps) Total Frames: 159173 Total Time : 01:28:31 Audio Size: 84.967.000 Required Video Size: 734.224.000 :arrow: and my best CQ56,255! why i with: less resize, less time movie got less CQ :?: :? :? :? :? i need a BIG help :!: :( |
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post your script i think maybe one of your filter might be doing this are u using DGbob :?: you are using 29fps that might be another reason. :!: |
no Osvaldo,no DGBob no more i cahnge to fielddeinterlace!
see my script: MaxTreshold=1.50 nf=0 # Current frame. Mpeg2Source("D:\La Luna\Segment2\DVD2AVI_PROJECT_FILE.d2v") FieldDeinterlace() undot() Limiter() asharp(2,4) GripCrop(480,480,overscan=1,source_anamorphic=fals e) GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize") STMedianFilter(8,32,0,0) MergeChroma(blur(MaxTreshold)) MergeLuma(blur(0.2)) ScriptClip("nf=YDifferenceToNext()"+chr(13)+"nf>2. 5?\ unfilter(-(fmin(round((nf/0.5)),100)),-(fmin(round((nf/0.5)),100))):\ TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2)") GripBorders() Limiter() function fmin(float f1,float f2){return(f1<f2)?f1:f2} thanks in adbvance! :wink: ps: Jell is helping me too in the "best scripts" thread... of course,something is wrong in my system and i don't know what is ?!?!? :? |
@jorel
Look at the Optimal Scripts forum... :wink: |
Hey Jo your script looks ok to me, i dont know maybe tok doesn't pred. well with 29 fps. Maybe you want to experiment a bit i would maybe put undot after the resize n take out the deinterlance filter just to see what kind of CQ you get or maybe try another deinterlance like tomsmocomp
for 2.52 and experiment a bit you know im not a brain like you but i some how solve my problems :wink: |
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Thanks to Kwag, Jellygoose and all others for helping figure this out. Maybe we should contact Pegasys-Inc. to determine if theres a bug in PAL-GOP encoding :roll: . |
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SansGrip`s "Sampler"??? (sorry if this has been answered already) Or do we need v0.0.5.2,<---(???) If so...where can we find that version?? ******************************* The Devil`s always.....in the Details! |
@ Jell
thanks, i read all there and waiting your helper answers. :) @ vico1 good question,i want to know the same. :wink: @ Osvaldo :) tomsmocomp is worse,decrease the CQ. i change deinterlance to just before and just after resize and change just a little...insignificant. fielddeinterlace is in the better place in the script, (thanks to Boulder and Phil for big explanations about deinterlace and ivtc) you wrote: "...i'm not a brain like you..." 8O you are in better perspective,you have a good brain working, mine is lost. :roll: |
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