Mac II software converted to Win98
 

@Anyone,

I've got some Educational Math Mac II software that I would like
to convert to Windows 98. Is this posible and what software
would work :)

-BP

Hi BP,

The best thing to do is install "Basilisk" on Windows, and then you can install Mac OS, and run it under Windows 8 :)
Then you can run all Mac applications that were written for OS Macintoshes.
Note: Basilisk will emulate a 68x Mac. Not a G4 or G5.
Read and download here: http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bauec002/B2Main.html

-kwag

@Kwag,

Kwag wrote:
Thaks Kwag, :) I covering a computer lab at my sister's school
where she teaches and they tons of MAC educational software
and only PC with Windows 98. I'll give this a try. It's beats trying
to get educational software with no money :roll:

-BP

In case you need to emulate a PowerPc, you can use PearPC:

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/

Hey Kwag and VM,

What do you think of SoftMac XP suite v8.2 emulator:

http://www.emulators.com/download.htm

Looks easier to install than Basilisk II build 102,
which requires MacOS cd-rom v8.1 and Mac image file.
Seems like everything included with SoftMac ?????

-BP

I tried it a long time ago, and it crashed a lot.
Basillisk is way better software.You also need to install Mac OS 8.0 or 8.1, and the ROM image, in SoftMac :)

-kwag

@Kwag,

I found Mac OS v8.0 ($25) on Ebay, but I can't find the utility to copy
the Mac ROM image :roll: You need a working Mac to get this image.
Is there another way to get the image :)

Thanks

-BP

@Kwag,

I found the PDF Manual (138 pages) for emulating Mac OS 8.0 on Win
PC's. It clearly spells out installing emulated Mac OS. I've already
created a Mac boot disk with GetROM and grabbed the ROM off of
a Mac II system at work. I ordered Mac OS from Ebay. I started the
setup with Basilisk II to allocate the CD drive and a 5.25 floppy
drive to Emulated Mac ( 90% of the software owned by this school
is on 5.25 floppy disc). The manual spells out some differences from
a real Mac ROM and the emulated one (like settings colors). The
most interesting thing about emulating is that it can co-exist with
Windows. Thanks for your help :D

-BP

Hey that's great BP :D
You know, the fastest platform that I tried Basillisk, and it ran fast like hell, was on BeOS :!:
I had 9 virtual screens for BeOS, and on a tenth window, I had a full screen Mac OS 8 running :D
So I could switch quickly between BeOS or Max OS, and it was pretty cool :cool:
But it also runs quite well on Windows :)

-kwag

Just to let you know,

There's a new PearPC out (0.2.0) :wink:
I tried PearPC 0.11 in the weekend and I was amazed to see MAC OS /X booting in a WinXP window. 8) The boot process (from start to the GUI completelly loaded) took 10 minutes in my atlhon 2000+, which I think is resonable for an emulation layer of a completelly different processor.

8O 8O 8O 8O That's WAY slowwwwww :lol:

In my Pentium 4 ~1.6Ghz, Basillisk under BeOS would boot Mac OS 8 in less than 1 minute :!:

-kwag

Now I see... :( But isn't PowerMac a much more complex CPU?

Yes, but the emulator shouldn't be 10 times slower :!:
I guess Pear still has a long way to go, as far as CPU optimizations :)
But it looks very promising :cool:

Edit: But wait :!:
I just re-read your previous post :!:
You were booting OS X. Not OS 8 :!: :oops:
I just rebooted my 450Mhz PowerPC, just to time the boot time, and from the "dong" sound to the full desktop, it took 1 minute 15 seconds.
I'll have to try PearPC on my P4 :cool:



-kwag

Hey Kwag and VM,

I just installed the following Basilisk II files on a Dell 233mhz, 2.11GB
HD, with Windows 98:

http://www.oldos.org/howtos/mac68kemu.php

Everything installed ok until I tried to update Mac OS 7.5.3 to 7.5.5.
I'm not familiar with how to read a diskette in Mac. :?: I do have
a Mac computer which is not working, so the Quadra ROM is still
legal, I think :roll: I'm getting closer to my first emulation of mac
with games :D

-BP

It should show an icon on the desktop, as soon as you put the floppy in the drive. Sure :!:
It's YOUR ROM :D

-kwag

@Kwag,

I have everything working using Basilisk II on Windows 98. The only
frustrating problem I'm having is that Basilisk only supports floppy
1.44mb and 98% of the software is on 5.25" floppies with a capacity
of 720kb. Basilisk will only read a 1.44mb floppy. Is there a software
program that copies 5.25" floppy to 3.5" HD (1.44mb) floppy in
windows. It has to Mac format the 3.5" floppy and copy the 5.25"
floppy to it. :roll: Any ideas. BTW, Basilisk uses ctrl+shift+f11 to
read a diskette in the floppy drive. It's not automatically showing
when a floppy is inserted into the drive. :) Running anything
from floppy is painfully sloooow. Can I copy the contents of a floppy
into my hardfile and run it from there ????? I'd also like to place
a short cut on the windows desktop and launch Basilisk from there,
but Basilisk returns and error about the preference file being missing.
If I go to the folder, it runs fine. How could I launch from desktop.

Thanks

-BP

@Kwag,

I found the answer to this :wink: First make a short cut in the
folder of Basilisk.exe. Then make a short cut of the first short cut
,but send it to Windows desktop. Nice. :mrgreen: Also, you can toggle
back and forth between Windows and Mac Emulator with Alt+Tab
keys.

I still haven't found a solution for copying Mac software from
5.25" floppy to 3.5" diskette. I'll keep trying. Do you think
TransMac could do this :)

I tried to change the Mac desktop background with graphics file
of .pict. I'm not sure how to get it into Mac. I also, downloaded
Decor. But read that quicktime is needed to get this to work. If
you have any knowledge about please share :)


Thanks

-BP

How about using a transfer utility to read MAC floppies, and copy them to Windows (or to an FTP site). Then Boot Basillisk, and retrieve your files into the Mac volume :idea:

-kwag

@Kwag,

Kwag wrote:
TransMac did the trick :wink: It can copy an image file of the 5.25"
floppy which can be written to the 3.5" floppy if it fits. Or it can dump
just the files and write them to a formatted Mac 3.5" floppy (in Basilisk's
case a 1.4MB). I converted 3 educational games so far and they played
without problems. The teachers at the school have 500+ more floppies
to check, some with duplicate, and some damaged. My part is, for now,
over :D Thanks for your great help :D :D :D :D :D

-BP

Kwag wrote:
I did something like that. I got an old PC with a 5.25" floppy drive. I
loaded TransMac which read the 5.25" Mac floppies and saved files as
binary(.bin). When I got enough programs to fill a CDR disc, I used
a PC-to-PC transfer program to send these files to my PC which
has a CDRW burner. Then I copied files from the CDRW and used
HFVExplorer to move the bin files to the Mac FileSpace. This is simplier
and faster then separate 3.5" HD floppies. It' all worked and I'm
testing Mac Educational Games now. :wink: I played my first Mac
Emulated game Maelstrom and the asteriods got me several times.
The graphics are very good considering the age of the software.
I used Kaleidoscope to change the desktop to look fancy and now
I'm trying to find a way to change the startup smilie face backgroung.
This is kind of fun for me :mrgreen: I never owned a Mac and the
more I use it the more I like it for games :D

-BP