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kwag 05-05-2005 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvdreasy
I get about the same value 6663 if, in the calculation method I consider 1 KBPS = 1024 bits. But if I consider 1 KBPS = 1000 bits, wich is what both CCE and HCENC uses I get 6817

IN CalcuMatic what are you using ?

I use 1024.

BTW, the size of the .m2v file after reencoding with 6688 average, is now 4.19 GB or 4,402,367 KB
It seems HC is encoding a final size larger than wanted, because based on my calculations at an average of 6688, the final size should be about 4,201,820 KB for the video stream, but it was larger!.
That's 200MB larger that the wanted file size.

-kwag

kwag 05-05-2005 09:34 AM

@dvdreasy,

I think this is the problem.
I see that on dvdreasy, with this particular DVD it detected a movie length of 01:23:46, but the real movie length is 1:29.52.
That's after dragging the VOB that dvdreasy extracted, straight into Vdub, and I also verified in the DVD box, where it states that the video time is 90 minutes.
The audio file size is correct, at 294,895KB.
So it seems dvdreasy thinks that the movie is shorter, selected a higher average bitrate, and that's why it oversized.
As Zyphon suggested, could it be possible to modify the value in the 'New calculated video bitrate' box?
This would take care of IFO differences of some DVDs, and the user can override the average bitrate for correction.

Thanks again,
-kwag

Zyphon 05-05-2005 09:40 AM

Thanks for your extensive testing Karl, you have saved me from wasting several hours of encoding.

Thanks also to you dvdreasy for your feedback I hope these teething problems can be solved sooner or later.

Great work btw a nice all-in-one tool. Just needs a little tweaking. :)

dvdreasy 05-05-2005 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
I think this is the problem.
I see that on dvdreasy, with this particular DVD it detected a movie length of 01:23:46, but the real movie length is 1:29.52.
That's after dragging the VOB that dvdreasy extracted, straight into Vdub, and I also verified in the DVD box, where it states that the video time is 90 minutes.

Strange !!!!! :!:
And it only happens with that particular DVD ? Did you make the same comparision with other DVD and all were OK ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
As Zyphon suggested, could it be possible to modify the value in the 'New calculated video bitrate' box?
This would take care of IFO differences of some DVDs, and the user can override the average bitrate for correction.

I want to avoid this kind of approuch. this is a one-click tool.
The way Zyphon suggested, DVDREasy must break/interrupt the conversion process waiting for user input.

kwag 05-05-2005 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvdreasy

Strange !!!!! :!:
And it only happens with that particular DVD ? Did you make the same comparision with other DVD and all were OK ?

I haven't tried other DVDs. This was my first try :!:
I'll test with a couple of other DVDs now, and see if the times match the ones dvdreasy are pasring from the IFOs.

Edit: This is the DVD with the problem: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218879/

-kwag

kwag 05-05-2005 11:06 AM

Hi dvdreasy,

I just tried another movie, and dvdreasy did read the correct time.
I also tried this particular DVD with DVDShrink, the one reading less time, and DVDShrink does read the correct time of 1:29:46, where dvdreasy reads 01:23:46
Here's the IFO file, if you want to take a look at it: http://www.kvcd.net/downloads/VTS_01_0.IFO

-kwag

dvdreasy 05-05-2005 11:16 AM

kwag,

Thanks !

this could be a BUG in DVDREasy (Ifo parsing)

I will investigate this and report ASAP

kwag 05-05-2005 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvdreasy
kwag,

Thanks !

this could be a BUG in DVDREasy (Ifo parsing)

I will investigate this and report ASAP

Thanks http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/error.gif :D

-kwag

black prince 05-05-2005 02:47 PM

@all,

Great progress. 8) DVDREasy is a keeper for high quality DVD backups
for me. Nice work DVDEasy!!!

-BP

the viking 05-05-2005 04:25 PM

dvdreasy wrote:
Quote:

....consider 1 KBPS = 1000 bits, wich is what both CCE and HCENC uses...
Just a little off topic question,anyone around here that can tell me what TMPEGnc use, 1kbps=1000bits or 1kbps=1024bits??

Thanks

About DVDREasy,im doing first backup now,HP and The Chambers Of Secrets,and the lenght was read correct,2h 34m 21s,so with AC3 6ch 384Kbps and subtitles the bitrate was set to 3558.Halfway through first
pass now.Nice tool,keep up the good work :!:

dvdreasy 05-05-2005 05:58 PM

@all

YEP,
its a BUG in DVDREasy. This only occurs in some extremely rare situations. I allready corrected this and will be available in next release (soon)

@ Kwag,

Thanks for pointing this out and for your time on extensive testings.

Cheers.

kwag 05-05-2005 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvdreasy
@ Kwag,

Thanks for pointing this out and for your time on extensive testings.

Cheers.

Any time my friend ;)

-kwag

audioslave 05-09-2005 07:42 PM

WOW! 8O
Just finished encoding "Cold Creek Manor". Original size of the whole DVD is 7.34 GB. Encoded size is 4.33 GB, in other words, PERFECT! 8)
And I haven't even mentioned the quality yet. I can't see any difference from the source DVD. Great tool. Thanks a lot!


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