With tmpgenc the times are generally from 2x to 6x the playing time (depending on the CPU you have of course).
Or it's more easy to say that is 3 times longer then CCE (and probably MC).

Phew!!! if I take appx 3.5 hours on the MC(with the avs scripts) then it would mean around 10.5 hrs appx per 60-70 min of movie. Thats tooo much, probably you need to forget your PC once you put it to encode. :lol:

If I remember correctly it took about 8 hours per movie, on a athlonXP 2500 with 768 mb ddr.

This was with the "high quality" setting, you could set this to "motion estimate", this will speed up your encoding but is don't what the quality will be like in this case.

Karl, take a look a kvcd.net main page.
It seems forsaken!

:?

Yes, I saw it last night.
I already PM'ed gamma so he could send me the original screenshots, and I'll post them locally :)

Edit:
I see your picture is gone too :!:
Do you have it around :?:

-kwag

You have one in:

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=117888#117888

but please don't link it straight, but host it in your server.

Downloaded an linked locally.

Thanks,
-kwag

Sorry guys, I don't have the original ones anymore.. BUT I will make some new ones, I remember more or less which screenshot's I've taken....

btw I only see 1 pic which has been removed, the rest loads ok.

:oops:

2 pics don't load...

@kwag, i'll mail you the pics soon!

@kwag: just mailed the pictures to your gmail!

And added some new ones:

http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i...2005/09/10.jpg
http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i...2005/09/11.jpg
http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i...2005/09/12.jpg

And of course the missing ones:

http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i...2005/09/13.jpg
http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i...2005/09/14.jpg


Sorry, I couldn't resist :D

Thanks :!: :D

-kwag

No problem! :)

Re: The Matrix Trilogy
 

Sorry for this vague question, what is "MA"???

Also did you use standard KDVD templates for TMPGEnc or changed some of the settings. If you have made some tweaks can you post them also i.e. VBV, GOP, DC precision used.

Re: The Matrix Trilogy
 

The "Motion Adaptative" script. That is the one that you will find in the optimal script section. There : http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3483

I used the standard kdvd template, with picture size at 704x576. VBV on 0 (=auto), DC 8bits (because of lower bitrates). The rest just the settings from the template.

Most important is the script :!:

What do you loose if you encode at 704x576 instead of 720x576. I know you gain bits since you encode in lesser resolution, so better quality but in laymans terms.........Do i still see full screen pictures (with letterbox) even on a widescreen TV or will there be boxes on the left/right also.

my question is like 720x576 Vs 704x576.....advantages....disadvantages

You lose nothing, 704x576 contains all the necessary details for TV. Incredible has explained it in several threads, try the search if you need a more techical explanation. My guess is that his explanation can be found in the "to resize or not to resize" -thread.

And don't forget that the same goes for 352x576 or 480.
You will always see the full movie image but only constrained in a smaller box ;-).
You will only loose active movie pixels if you treat your overscan area in overlap mode instead of the resize mode.
And just in case you won't know what overscan is, it is left/right edges which won't be visible on regular TV screens.
As far as I know only projectors and maybe plasma screens are not affected by overscan.
But Andrej will probably explain it better than me.
I for one prefer the overlap overscan instead the resized overscan.
But many will tell you the opposite ;-).
Cheers

Every digital device is not affected. Analog ones are. So old "3-eyes" projector are also affected.

It began to bother me so I dug it out:

What comes to 352x576(480), the standalone has to extrapolate the "lost details" because the resolution is not enough for a full TV image.

Did you encode all 3 movies at the same time or seperatly?
if you encoded seperatly did you use 4500 birate for each one ?

Seperatly.

Hm, i think I used max 4600 for revolutions, cq 64. The rest 4500, maybe matrix 1 at 4400. I did many tests, by now I don't remember very well.
I do know that matrix 1 and 2 were below cq 64.

Use most space for revolutions, as it has the most "encoder nightmare" scenes :wink:

What about Widescreen TV (LCD) ???

Plasma, DLP and LCD are digital (they all use a matrix based display).

a) It depends how the internal Tuner A/D Device handles the broadcasted signal to be displayed on a digital device.
Assume they wouldnt have any overscan, this would result in ugly edged broadcastings - do some analogue caps (or even digital ones) and youll see what I mean. So the "Overscan" is kind of simulated by upsizing to the overscanned out-of-bounds factor of for example 1024x768 on a 4:3 LCD TV.
Thats also the fact in case of DVB Transeivers when passing digital data via DVI through.

b) These pics above are VERY nice, no doubt. But when I did encode my Matrix episodes to KVCD or MVCD on two ones I was even able to put a second language mp2@128kbit Audiotrack on the CD-R. Means, Matrix Episodes do have quick motion and much action BUT the "whipped cream" for the encoder is the in relative very big amount of dark parts in the whole framecount. That makes things even much more compressable. Same thing when encoding "Seven" for instance. Do your test and you see how the CQ rises when predictionning to a common target size compared to other movies.

How would my results be if I converted matrix from .ts and then put 3 of them on one disc ? Is it worth it or should I just stick to encoding it at 1920x1088 in xvid ?

What exactly do you mean by :arrow: .ts
I hope it's not Tele Sync, because if it is, the posts will be deleted.

-kwag

.ts = TransportStream

A resulted stream out of a DVB streaming. Which should be kept at its max Detailed res. 1920x1088., so I'd go for x264 encoding on that and putting it into a mp4 or even better mkv container.

To answer directly to the question : using your HDTV ts as source is even better than using the DVD. So if you convert them into KDVD, you will have the same quality in the result as the one exposed here.

OT (nothing to do with KDVD) :there is a new tool to do HDTV ts -> DVD in one shot

http://www.svcd2dvd.com/HDTV2DVD/

Incredible is right, thanks. Sorry I should have specified what I was asking. I just used hdtv2dvd on a small sample and it encoded it pretty fast im surprised. I am not sure if converting from hdtv to dvd is faster than converting it to divx/xvid or not but thats what it seems like. I want to also make my own matrix trilogy in one disc like gamma has done but my main concern is that I am loosing resolution when i convert to kdvd..in other words my source is 1080i and the end file I get is 720x480. Does loosing resolution matter ? If it does I would rather convert it to another format.

Of course it does, else the HDTV woudn't have come to life.
How ever, I have bid doubts that you can put the trilogy on a single DVD if you keep the HDTV resolution even in Xvid. Why ? Because for such resolution you will have to keep a high average bitrate, probably over 2500 Kbit/s. And this won't let you put the 6H on a disc.

You can try new codecs like H264 or RV10, it should be better, but I still have doubts.

Can i choose 1920x1088 resolution in tmpgenc ?

Yes.
If the settings is greyed, then load the template called 'unlock.mcf' that is delivered with tmgenc. It will free all the settings and let you change them.

hi
 

i am new member.actually i want to know that which software i have to use for this work

Re: hi
 

Please go through the guides available, but just FYI, avisynth, TMPGEnc(with readavs.dll configured) and knowledge of avisynth filters would be required for the Video conversion. For audio use besweet or Headac3he.

hey gamma , can i see the script that you did?

Re: The Matrix Trilogy
 

Re: The Matrix Trilogy
 

Yup :D

But, I would definitely try lremovedust now.