Pirates of the Caribbean 2 and Super Size Me success!
Hey everyone. After fiddling around with HCMatic (MANY thanks Dialhot!!), I finally got the perfect encode of Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest and Super Size Me. I am really pleased with HC-Encoder as the quality is much better at higher bitrates compared with TMPGEnc. Here are the POC-2 screens.
Original http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/error.gif HC-Encoder finished product http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/error.gif P.S: Thanks again Dialhot for HCMatic, but how do you configure HC-Encoder to do batch encodes manually? |
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 2 and Super Size Me success!
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Then you just need to do a batch like the one I did with : Code:
HCenc -ini <yourfirst.ini> |
can you post your script and configuration for HC
thanks |
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 2 and Super Size Me success!
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Is that a P frame that you posted? To me that's a very bad encode unless that is a very high action and long movie. There is no way I would burn such an encode. Can you post more source details? Cheers |
It's not so bad if the DVD contains the two movies. POC have several scenes hard to encode that definitely kill the bitrate. I did not have better result myself on this and finally I used a whole disc for it.
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I don't know that movie.
Taking your word for it then I guess it's ok. Nevertheless it looks awful. |
@Dialhot
Thanks for the help, I'll try it out! @Neputne Code:
## DLL Section ## GOP: (NTSC) so 18 Max Bitrate: 5000 DC Prec: (Default) 10 (I forget the quality that HCMatic found, was 8 something though) @rds_correia It looks alright on TV, it is just a little flickery/jittery at times. I don't know why this is just as of yet, but I'll run more tests and see if it is the encoded video or just the dvd player. I'm what you would call a beginner, so what exactly is a P-Frame? Paused Frame? Yea, but I was able to put two movies onto the dvd and they both totaled up to be around 250 minutes worth of video. POC2 being pretty action oriented. |
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I never go above 6 and was arround 5 after I finally decided to put the movie only on a disc. There is something I don't understand in your results. (I did PAL edition, so 704*576 and 15 as GOP length = I had more than one reason to have a Q above yours !). |
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You do know the basics although you might not have enough experience ;). MPEG movies are composed of I, B and P frames. Usually the structure looks like IBBPBBPBBPBBPBBP...until it reaches the max GOP length which in your case (NTSC DVD) is 18 IIRC. When it does reach the end it will start all over again with an I frame followed by a group of 2 B frames and 1 P frame and so on as shown in the example above. You can see the structure of your encoded movie using virtualdub or virtualdubmod. The I frames are usually the less compressed and the best good looking of them all followed by the B frames and the ugliest of them all and the shorter ones in space are the P frames. Every GOP (in your case) has 1xI frame, 12xB frames and 5xP frames. So, when we post a picture so that others can admire our work we usually post B frames because they're the ones in the middle. They usually look good and they are you're widest choice. ------ As Phil said, drop that 5000 and set it to 9000, keep DC precision to 10 (even though the default is 9) and resize it properly with PARanoia. If you have doubts on how to use PARanoia please consult this Flash tutor http://www.myfilestash.com/./userfil...aranoia8in.swf. If I were you (in case of KDVD) I'd drop Motion Adaptive script in favor of a good static script. You could go with a Undot() + Deen() or with a LRemoveDust() + LimitedSharpen(). The later is the best good looking but it is also the toughest to set up. So if I were you 1st I'd try the Undot().Deen() because it is easy to set up and results are very good for (K)DVD targets. And please, try never going above Q=6 in HC. For all my tests Q>6 gave very bad results. Perhaps they look good on a small TV but if you look at it on a big beamer then you'll understand. Ultimately if there's no way you can compress more then it's better to go for a 1xDVD=1xMovie. |
FYI, I'm using LimitedSharpen + LRemoveDust. This is the script I use most of the time :
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DGDecode_Mpeg2Source("PATH\NAME.d2v",cpu=4,idct=7) |
@Dialhot
Alright, thanks for all the info. But I am a bit confused as to what number I should set the DC Precision. 9 or 10? Quote:
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And as for the script you use Code:
DGDecode_Mpeg2Source("PATH\NAME.d2v",cpu=4,idct=7) @rds_correia Thanks for the explanation about the IBP frames. Next time, I'll use a B-Frame screenshot of the two. Yea, I am also watching it on a 32 inch 4-3 TV. I'll start using PARanoia. (Thanks for the guide!) I'll do a re-encode and post the screens of the second version of POC2. Thanks for the help again! |
I am surprised noone replied to you till now.
Copy the .avsi file (functions) into the avisynth plugin folder and then you can use those functions as if they were filters, just put their names in the script. |
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Excellent.....almost as original/better than original Good... okay to watch..... bad.... Since I dont have that screensize but i hope tp upgrade someday |
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or probably, do you suggest not to use any sharpners altogether
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For the moment I still use LS(), probably until I buy a HD-DVD player in a couple of months. |
Under what circumstances do you use the Mergechroma/Luma in HC 2 pass.
Does it improve compressibility ??? Does it improve quality ??? Other factors ??? |
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2/ if they would improve quality, don't you think i will use them anytime ? ;-) Of course I use them to improve compressibility, and only when I can't reach a correct Q without them. The details are slightly reduced and the colors a little less shaded, so it's better without them. |
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Reminder : if you need it, the whole content of my plugin directory for avisynth is there :
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dialhot/Avis...ll_Plugins.rar |
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