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Guide to convert DVD to KVCD
How to Backup DVD to KVCD
Introduction: I backup my purchased DVDs to KVCD for my laptop and use it as a movie player. The quality is very good even with movies over 3 hours. This guide covers a limited example (NTSC, 352 x 240, full-screen). For other variations of this, like PAL, check the forum to get other settings. Before Getting Started: You need to test your stand-alone DVD player to see if the KVCD, KSVCD, and KDVD formats will work. Download from the link below and burn with VCDEasy or Nero. This will help you determine which formats will play, if any, on your DVD player.
 Download and Install Software
Step 1 - Ripping Step 2 - Frameserve Using DVD2AVI: Go to File>open>(select a vob, e.g. vts_01_1.vob, file from Step 1) dvd2avi will use the rest of the files Go to Option>Preview (play 1 or 2 minutes of the video) Watch the “Video Type” field and use the table below to set Video>Field Operation:
Step 3 - Video Creating AVS script file: The script below is an example for resolution 352x240, NTSC, full screen. Cut and paste this in a file named "movie.avs" or some name ending with .avs. Change the directory names for filters and the .d2v files below to your own. To change the BicubicResize parameters use FitCD to adjust these settings and AddBorders. Code:
LoadPlugin("c:\DVD BACKUP\Filters25\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
Step 4 - Audio Using Headac3he: You can adjust your audio file size based on the resulting video file size. If your video target file size is bigger than prediction reduce the audio to less than 128kb or if greater than increase above 128kb. Your Video and Audio file size must fit the target CD size, about 794MB. The remainder CD space is overhead used by Nero (about 12MB). This will all fit using overburn in Nero.
Step 5 - Multiplex Using MPlex:
Step 7 - Playing your Movie After using MPlex the file created should be "movie00.mpg". Use VideoLan Client to play your newly created mpeg-1 movie for testing. It's free (PowerDVD and WinDVD are not free) and plays just about anything. Step 8 - Burning your movie to CD-R Since VCDEasy does not support my burner, I create an .cue and .bin file with VCDEasy and finish burning with Nero. VCDEasy:
Final Comments: This may seem like a long process and with some movies it may well be. But the video quality is worth the effort. After doing several backups it gets easier. Please post your comments about the ease of using this guide and any corrections needed. -black prince
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Nice work Black Prince, very clear and easy to understand, a good guide.
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i can't resist: the (first) post after your tutorial! really cool!!!! 8) 8) 8) i want to thank you black prince, but the words "run out" of my head. thank you friend , i think that you made it all for everybody but in special for me,cos i "bore" you too much, asking about this tutorial! my intentions was the best: :) BIG thank you black prince! :D :D :D we follow you! editing: second post: urban tec was faster,i was reading and "hipnotized"! 8O |
I'm having trouble doing the video portion. This is the error I'm getting when trying to load the .avs into TMpegEnc.
http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/error.gif And this is the .avs file I created by copying and editing it to my specs. LoadPlugin(“C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\VCD Filters\MPEG2DEC.dll”) LoadPlugin(“C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\VCD Filters\LegalClip.dll”) LoadPlugin(“C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\VCD Filters\Sampler.dll”) LoadPlugin(“C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\VCD Filters\DustV5.dll”) LoadPlugin(“C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\VCD Filters\TemporalCleaner.dll”) LoadPlugin(“C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\VCD Filters\GripFit_preview.dll”) LoadPlugin("C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\VCD Filters\DecombLegacy.DLL") mpeg2source(D:\kvcd.d2v) # LegalClip() #Telecide() #Use based on Step 2 if needed #Decimate(5) #Use based on Step 2 if needed GripCrop(352, 240, overscan=2) GripSize() SpaceDust() TemporalCleaner() LegalClip() #Sampler(length=24) What am I doing wrong here??? :( |
Hi TCC,
Open your .avs with notepad, and check the first line of you script. I think you have a stray character there that's not supposed to be there :D Edit: I see your problem. You're supposed to use " instead of “ as double quotes. Change all your “ for " :D -kwag |
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editng: Kwag is right (like ever) see in the pic: unexpected character <-----error (use " instead of “ ) :wink: |
It looks like when you copy and pasted the script you got exactly what
was on the website. This included SmartQuotes, vs. regular double quotes. Open your avs script in notepad, and retype the " character after deleting the ones there. the Smart Quotes, look like they have a little tail on them pointing in the direction their facing. These are not recognized by the computer, as being a quote mark. good luck -Jeff |
Video and audio sync
Hi, it´s me again... :roll:
I´m trying to make a KVCD from Harry Potter ( The Philosopher Stone )DVD but I´m stuck. First of all, the movie is fullscreen 4:3 and 152 min, so I tried to put in 2 cd´s with 352x480. I use this resolution to make room to a higher CQ. IN DVD2AVI the movie it´s 99% FILM and Progressive. So I tried to make the "Force Film" trick but I ended with a jumping movie ( every 3 seconds the jump occurs ). After that, I tried to make a 29,97 fps movie without "Force Film", and the movie was ok, without jumps, but in the action scenes a big horizontal line started to appear in the areas in motion. So I read, read and read many faqs, fóruns and find some answers. I put the original project.d2s in GordianKnot to see the type of frames. The Harry Potter DVD has 3 progressives frames and 2 interlaced frames, so the wise choise it´s to use the IVTC in the Avisynth script. So I tried this new method ( using telecide with my original 29,97 fps project ), and the horizontal lines in the areas in motion totally disapear, but the audio was desync from the video. When I watch the video in my player, the video "run" to be in sync with audio, and the effect it´s very ugly. :cry: My audio was made with the original 29,97 fps project , and with 48 KHz, but I don´t think the problem is the 48Khz from the audio, because I made some avi to kvcd conversions and it played very good ( final KVCD with 23,97 fps NTSC 544x480 48KHz). So someone can help me? I´ll try this night to make a sample with a 44KHz to see if the problem continues, but I like to have some other tips to find what´s going wrong with my kvcd´s. :?: The .avs script I was using is this: LoadPlugin("C:\Encodes\plugins\MPEG2DEC.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\Encodes\plugins\blockbuster.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\Encodes\plugins\legalclip.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\Encodes\plugins\sampler.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\Encodes\plugins\dustv5.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\Encodes\plugins\GripFit_preview.dll ") LoadPlugin("C:\Encodes\plugins\TemporalCleanerOld. dll") LoadPlugin("C:\Encodes\plugins\MSharpen.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\Encodes\plugins\DecombLegacy.dll") Mpeg2Source("c:\harry.d2v") Telecide() Decimate(cycle=5) LegalClip() GripCrop(source_anamorphic = false, 352, 480, overscan=2) GripSize() #faerydust() SpaceDust() #pixiedust() temporalcleaner() Blockbuster(method="noise", variance=.3, seed=1) MSharpen() GripBorders() LegalClip() #Sampler(length=24) Thanks in advance for all your help ! :P |
Problem Solved ( ? )
I make 4 new samples with the video ( all of them was IVTC ): one with 23.97 fps ( normal bitrate from the templates ), one with 23.97 fps ( but with min bitrate set as 1150 ), a third video sample with 29.97 fps ( normal bitrate ) and a fourth with 29.97 and min. bitrate set as 1150 .
I make 2 new audio samples for the 23.97 fps and 29.97 fps. And I make another copy from the audio source for a 48KHZ and a 44KHZ. So in the end I was with 4 video samples and 4 audio samples. 1) video sample with 23.97 ( bitrate min 300 max 2500 ) 2) video sample with 23.97 ( bitrate min 1150 max 2500 ) 3) video sample with 29.97 ( bitrate min 300 max 2500 ) 4) video sample with 29.97 ( bitrate min 1150 max 2500 ) 5) audio sample with 23.97 48KHz 6) audio sample with 23.97 44KHz 7) audio sample with 29.97 48KHz 8) audio sample with 29.97 44KHz What I was trying to do is to see if the problem was in the conversion form 29.97 to 23.97 or the problem was in the min bitrate or in the audio. I muxed the video and the audio samples and every 23.97 sample was a failure ( jumping video ), but the samples with 29.97 was perfect. So I make my 2 KVCD with the video FPS set to 29.97, use the telecide to get the interlaced frames out of the video, and make a very good conversion from my DVD source. :P |
In the above guide it says that the GOP structure should be 1-24-2-1-24 but I've seen posts about 1-5823-2-1-24. What does the 24 and 5823 do to the video if anything :?: Which is better to use :?:
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The 5823 it´s the Kwag name in numbers ( see your telephone ).
In really you can´t use more than 24 before the max GOP 24 stops you. You can try other small numbers like 12 for example, but never below 7. |
@All,
This Guide has some new updates, e.g. MovieStacker, Tok, etc. Check it out :D -black prince |
Great guide :) This will help alot of people out.
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tok always gives me the following error message:
"unrecognized exception! d:\...\...\pie1.avs, line 13" the script's this here: #==============================================# # -= AviSynth script by MovieStacker v1.1.1 =- # #==============================================# LoadPlugin("D:\Download\MovieStacker_v1.1.1\MovieS tacker\Filters\MPEG2Dec.dll") LoadPlugin("D:\Download\MovieStacker_v1.1.1\MovieS tacker\Filters\TemporalCleanerOld.dll") LoadPlugin("D:\Download\MovieStacker_v1.1.1\MovieS tacker\Filters\BlockBuster.dll") LoadPlugin("D:\Download\MovieStacker_v1.1.1\MovieS tacker\Filters\DustV5.dll") LoadPlugin("D:\Download\MovieStacker_v1.1.1\MovieS tacker\Filters\LegalClip.dll") LoadPlugin("D:\Download\MovieStacker_v1.1.1\MovieS tacker\Filters\Sampler.dll") Mpeg2Source("D:\dvdtemp\kvcd\pie1.d2v") LegalClip() BilinearResize(496, 398, 0, 0, 720, 576) SpaceDust() TemporalCleaner(ythresh=5, cthresh=10) BlockBuster(method="noise", detail_min=1, detail_max=7, variance=0.3, seed=1) AddBorders(16, 89, 16, 89) LegalClip() Sampler(length=24) ## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size * .98 ## please help, i'm a total german newbie ;) |
I'm getting the same error. I've done a couple of KVCDs before using other methods, but I really want this way to work. Followed the instructions to the T. Still getting... First a popup error saying " " is not a valid integer value" and then on the video tab tmpeg is saying "unrecognized exception!" then it references the mpeg2source line of the .avs file. Like I said, did everything by the book, used moviestacker for the script, and I get the error every time! Help!
-grover |
hi grover,
welcome! "german"?? your system is pal-g, right? don't know but it seems strange: AddBorders(16, 89, 16, 89) do you got this values in MovieStacker? :? open the prog again and adjust the "blocks tv overscan" and click in resize again! the value is the same? as i worte ,i think you use pal system...this values(89) is strange for me! :) |
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Make sure you used DVD2AVI version 1.76 ONLY when you made your .d2v file. Don't use version 1.77.x. -kwag |
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Q1: Where do you get the % reading from when you preview the video. All I get is the video type, not a %age. Also, How and where do you put the Decomb and is this why I get a comb effect in my finished KVCD's when there is a lot of movement in my DVD's. Could you maybe give an example of a decombed script? Q2: Also, why is it that files are split (Or created) at 794Mb instead of 694Mb when an 80Min (700Mb) CD Is specified :? Thanks. -Rassilon |
Hello all:
I can not find the DVD2AVI v1.76 software. I have tried both Doom9 and VCD help, and others, but it appears that the download site is either down or the links are not working. Have you folks run into this problem as well? Thanks |
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I too had this problem, I just did a search using www.anzwers.com.au and found some more links (This was the only search engine that I know of that actually found v1.76). Here are 2 links for you all out there that are still looking for v1.76 of DVD2AVI. http://home.wanadoo.nl/gamecopyfreak/content/files.html http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware....shtml#DVD2AVI -Rassilon |
Hi Rassilon:
Thank you very much for the tip. I was able to download the file from wanadoo, now I have to keep on downloading the rest of the files in accordance to the guides found in this forum. Thank you, muchas gtacias, muito obrigado, etc, etc Regards Totonho03 :P |
DVD to KCVD
Dear sirs:
I am trying to follow black prince's guide, and I am doing fine until I reach step4. What happens here is that Movie Stacker is not responding at all, it just sits there with no action. I have uninstalled and re-installed this program with the same results. Any ideas on how to get over this issue? Thanks Totonho03 |
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Does Movie Stacker load at all? Because from my short experience with it, it doesn't appear to to much at all, just load and sit there.. :? If it is loading, you should see the "MPEG Resize & AviSynth Script" screen. At the bottom LH quadrant of the program screen you should see something that resembles black prince's AviSynth script. For the novice user like myself, I have found that the best way to use Movie Stacker is to select "Load" presets (Bottom of the screen in the middle) and load the appropriate preset (I used KVCDx3_528x480.pst), then click on Source (Almost at the top of the left hand corner). Select your movie source (The d2v file you made with DVD2AVI), then Save Script (Bottom Right Hand Corner). Remember where you save thid script as you will need this in your next step. :) I have inserted black prince's example in for the script, but the pictures became artifacted, skin times tended towards yellow and black screens were green.. :( So far I've found the default to be OK except for a comb effect when there is movement and I'm investigating the decomb filter. :? If Movie Stacker is crashing (Rather than just sitting there doing nothing), then I can't help you.. :( I hope that this has helped. :) -Rassilon |
Hi Rassilon:
Thank you for your reply. I was able to run MovieStacker, and actually I was able to perform the compression, but unfortunately, I run into another problem. All of a sudden, I have no audio. I have already upgraded all audio drivers, but still receive the message stating that there is no audio hardware or that the hardwae is not responding. Do not know what caused that, and am trying to restore the audio in my computer, but so far, nothing that I do restores the audio. Thanks Totonho03 |
Hello all:
I am sorry to bother again, but I am really confused with this KVCD. I have been trying to follow Black prince's guide, and I am running into problems. To begin with, I get errors like floating decimal points, then I starting reading about the scripts- sorry, but but due to my ingnorance in these matters, I became more confused with this-, but nevertheless, loaded a couple of filters, except that I do not know where to place these filters. I am assuming that Moviestacker is where they should go, except that I do not know where and how to intall them. And once intalled, How do you manually set them within Moviescrypt, do you type them as depicted in kwags Code? Is that all you do? type that is, and TOK may recognize it automatically Last week, I was able to go all the way to Tmpgenc, and tried burning it using Nero, except that Nero did not recognize the format that I had saved. (I erased everything and tried again, and now I am getting floating decimal errors, as well as other problems that I did not record) As Rassilon asked a couple of days ago, where do you find the "decomb" in the avs script? I am going to once again follow the guide, to the letter, and come back to the forum for help. Again, I do not mean to be a pain, but would like to be able to burn KVCDs. As you can detect, I am really a newie, and your help is greatly appreciated, Thanks and Happy Holidays P.S.- Is there a guide for Moviestacker? Black Prince calls for Avisynth in his guide, but is it being used by another software? |
Hello again:
I did try to back up again, and have problems. This is my set up: My script is: LoadPlugin("F:\DVD Projects\1 Programs\Movie Stacker\Filters\MPEG2Dec.dll") LoadPlugin("F:\DVD Projects\1 Programs\Movie Stacker\Filters\TemporalCleanerOld.dll") LoadPlugin("F:\DVD Projects\1 Programs\Movie Stacker\Filters\GripFit_preview.dll") LoadPlugin("F:\DVD Projects\1 Programs\Movie Stacker\Filters\DustV5.dll") LoadPlugin("F:\DVD Projects\1 Programs\Movie Stacker\Filters\LegalClip.dll") LoadPlugin("F:\DVD Projects\1 Programs\Movie Stacker\Filters\Sampler.dll") Mpeg2Source("F:\DVD Projects\Movies\2 DVD2AVI ac3 .dv2 out\gcapril19pm.d2v") LegalClip() GripCrop(528, 480, overscan=2, dest_anamorphic=true) GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize") SpaceDust() TemporalSmoother(radius=2, strength=3) TemporalCleaner(ythresh=5, cthresh=10) GripBorders() LegalClip() Sampler(length=24) ## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size * .98 ## Mi TOK log is =============================================== ToK Log: F:\DVD Projects\Movies\2 DVD2AVI ac3 .dv2 out\gc19appm1.avs =============================================== Resolution (fps):528x480 (29.970 fps) Total Frames: 1824 Total Time : 00:01:01 ------------------------------------------------------------- Audio Size: 109,305,216 Required Video Size: 641,970,236 Factor: 59.940 Desired Sample Size: 10,710,214 ------------------------------------------------------------- Prediction: 1st Group of Passes ------------------------------------------------------------- Next CQ: 70.000. Sample Size: 5,800,370 NextCQ: 129.253 >=90, so check is needed Next CQ: 90.000 Sample Size: 104,070 NextCQ: 9,262.221 >=90 once again, a more detailed check is needed Next CQ: 90.000 Sample Size: 10,407 Final CQ: 90.000 Total Time For Predicition: 00:01:22 Total Time (all operations): 00:01:22 Finished =============================================== After running TOK, I receive the following error message: Sampler:sampler must be>=2 F\dvdProject..........\.....\videoavs, line28. This appears at the tmpg software, and keps on running it over and over.......... I have run different .acs set ups with the same message. When running Decrypter, I used files and only the files for the main movie. I have also used Control A to highlight all files, but the results were the same. I am obviously doing sameting wrong, but do not know what. The DVD I am trying to back up is not a movie, it is a Brazlian concert, taped in NTSC format. Thanks for your help |
Just remove Sampler() from avs script .
Close ToK . Open Tok again , Load your avs script and click START . bman |
Hello bman
Thank you for your advice. I am removing the sampler line from the scrypt with the # character. Since I sent my last posting, I have not being able to burn a kvcd. Just to recap: I am doing fine up to TOK, and then run into problems when I hit the start command. Do not know if the problems are caused by moviestacker, TOK or the TMPGenc programs. One doubt that I have: when using TOK, should I try to load TMPGenc parameters prior to using TOK? or are the parameters automatically set by TOK. What I am presently doing is erasing everything and re-loading the programs again. Then I will try it KVCD again, and if I run into problems I will once again post them Tx. Totonho03 |
I'm having a problem with ToK as well. When it does it's test of the avs script, TMPGEnc cannot read the file. The error is consistently dies on the following line found in the video.avs script that ToK uses to test the file for quality settings.
LoadPlugin("") TMPGEnc continues to display that it cannot read the plugin "" Is there a work around to this? I have successfully frame served TMPGEnc the D2V file through avisynth to resize it, but it would nice if I could get the quality setting through ToK before doing the projecct. Best regards, FractalAB |
Hi FractalAB
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Regards Totonhoo3 |
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LoadPlugin("E:\KVCD Converting\Filters\Mpeg2dec.dll") LoadPlugin("E:\KVCD Converting\Filters\GripFit_Preview.dll") LoadPlugin("E:\KVCD Converting\Filters\LegalClip.dll") LoadPlugin("E:\KVCD Converting\Filters\STMedianFilter.dll") LoadPlugin("E:\KVCD Converting\Filters\UnFilter.dll") LoadPlugin("E:\KVCD Converting\Filters\Convolution3D.dll") LoadPlugin("E:\KVCD Converting\Filters\DustV5.dll") LoadPlugin("E:\KVCD Converting\Filters\textsub.vdf") AviSource("E:\-=[ DIGITAL WAREZ ]=-\-=[ VIDEOS ]=-\Evil_Dead_2.divx5.kalbshirn.ShareReactor.avi") ConvertToYUY2() LegalClip() Sharpen(0.65) GripCrop(704, 576, overscan=4) TextSub("E:\KVCD Converting\KVCD CACHE\Subtitles\Evil Dead 2 - Fin - 25fps - 1987.sub") GripSize(resizer="bilinearResize") STMedianFilter(10, 50, 0, 0, 10, 50) SpaceDust() unfilter(50,50) mergechroma(blur(1.58)) mergeluma(blur(0.3)) Convolution3D(preset="movieLQ") GripBorders() LegalClip() |
Hi,
Following the steps in this guide, in the prediction stages of ToK the AVS-script seems corrupt. In TMPG the preview screen states something about "division by zero" on the last line of the AVS-script. Seems to be an error message from Avisynth. I don't have access to my computer at this time, so I can't post the failing script. I remember that the script contains a line: interval = round((FrameRate/25)/60)/10 or something similar. This variable is later used in the last line which I dont remember but is something like SelectFrames(round(blabla/interval).... which could be the reason. I don't really know if this is normal or not, but it seems to be an error to me... /C |
I CANT OPEN HEADACH3E !
IT KEEPS TELLING ME THAT IT IS MISSING DLL.S
IS THERE ANOTHER PROGRAMME I CAN USE TO CONVERT FROM WAV. TO MP2? |
Re: I CANT OPEN HEADACH3E !
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LOOSE YOUR CAPS :!: You can use TMPEG's built in audio encoder. Just open your WAV and convert to .MP2. But quality will never be the same as with HeadAC3he. -kwag |
Hi,
The DLL's are at this link: http://mitglied.lycos.de/darkav/svcdguide/svcd.html , you have to put them in the same folder where you extracted Headach3e. Red |
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Tok Problems !
Hello
At first a big thanks at kwag for the good guide ! But I have a problem with the avs script. I am from germany. and i would make a copy from the dvd "The Foreigner". I have the Problem with the moviestacker. I don't know what to do in the program. I looked at the site:http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3483 and i copy the script from this site. LegalClip() unfilter(50,50) GripCrop( X, Y ) GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize") STMedianFilter(8, 32, 0, 0, 8, 32) # SpaceDust() # Optional - for some "not so clean" DVDs. temporalsmoother(1,2) mergechroma(blur(1.50)) mergeluma(blur(0.2)) # Convolution3d or DCTFilter for extreme worse cases. GripBorders() LegalClip() But it doesn't work. AH and this with the filters, i dont know what i must do. I have the Moviestacker v1.1.1 and the AviSynth 2.08 ! Please help me. Thanks Newbieman from Germany |
sorry i forgot
Sorry i forgot.
the filters are in c:\dvd_kvcd\MovieStacker_v1.1.1\MovieStacker\Filte rs the d2v file is here: f:\neu_video_ts\video.d2v I used the DVD2AVI ver. 176 MovieStacker_v1.1.1 ToK_0.0.5.3 AviSynth_208 i hope you can help me ! thx And i would do in pal !! I have a another question ! The Sound is save to : video AC3 T02 3_2ch 384Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp2 But where is the video save to ? : my video.d2v is only 300 kb big ! |
Is ToK suppose to only generate .m1v files while predicting, but then suck up the headac3he audio and combine them before it starts on the final .mpg? Sorry, i'm a total noob.
-g |
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